Name: Russell Brand & Jordan B Peterson - Under the Skin #52
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Hello and welcome to this special edition of Under the Skin With Me.

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I'll be talking to Dr Professor Dr Jordan Peterson.

I've spoken to him before, but this special commemorative wasn't really commemorative chat.

It's not a detail for the royal wedding between Meghan Merkel and Prince Harry.

It's to celebrate their release on paper.

Back off my book recovery and look at it now on Amazon is particular and 50 I think maybe £6.47.

We talk about that book recovery we took out.

The principles of recovery is a road to enlightenment.

We talk about Dr Peterson's book 12 Rules for Life is an interesting chat.

We do, of course, go for some of the mainstays of Professor Peter Sissons.

What a canon of ideas the commonly talked about.

But also I think we really get to the heart of it and discover some, uh, some people think there's an exclusion of warmth.

I think sometimes when talking about Peterson's ideas in these insistence on individual culpability and responsibility, we get into that stuff quite deeply.

I think it's a great chance those you don't know who Julian Peterson is yet.

Obviously not watching him at the Hammersmith Apollo with 5000 others.

So, yeah, we're talking toe Jordan Peterson on under the skin.

And do check out my book Recovery on paper back.

We're both of us were exiled in Los Angeles in our last conversation by Enjoyed it very much.

Now we're in London or in a publishing office.

You've been promoting a book up her team.

And do undoing a public couple of public lectures.

In a way, I've been comparing you to the British opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn in that you've been doing this for ages and now you're experiencing I on I almost perhaps unprecedented level off attention, but I'm assuming that your skill set is applicable.

So it's not like, Oh, my God, there's cameras, right?

Well, I mean, the the large scale lectures I'm doing aren't that much different in kind from the lectures I was doing at the university.

I mean, the venue's er larger and, yeah, but the Hammersmith Apollo 3000 seats, I think maybe you're Yeah, there were 5000 at the Apollo.

Um, I'm not as nervous doing that as I am often going to talk to journalists.

Yeah, because like the thing about those venues, there's a variety of things about them that work in my favor.

You know, I've always enjoyed lecturing, and so lecturing to several 1000 people isn't much different than lecturing to several 100 people.

But I also know that the people who have come are they're happy to be there, like I'm I'm speaking to a welcoming crowd.

And so and it's all All of the details are essentially under my control.

I mean, I'm apprehensive beforehand because Well, because you should be.

You know, I want to do a good job and I want to make sure things go well.

And I want to get through the material properly and and and get a little farther in my thinking that I have Bean and and I'm trying to make each time I lecture better than the last time, and I don't Obviously I always don't succeed at that, but But it's good.

And my wife is a very good travel companion.

She's very stable and she helps me plan my days.

And so we've got it down to a bit of a routine.

I would say Tommy is in the room with this.

We have already met previously in Los Angeles.

Listeners are wondering why Perhaps they might be able to detect in my voice.

I'm occasionally glancing towards the spouse.

The reason is because I am now they will when you're, um, doing these letters.

Do you know if you're definitely Yeah, Well, sure.

I mean, a lecture theatre is a theater, you know in a lecture is a form of theater.

But theater can be serious, you know, And and there's a seat, because partly what I'm doing is I'm presenting ideas to an audience.

But I'm also modeling the act of engaging with ideas, and that's the theatrical end of it.

And I don't give the same talk twice, like I have my stories and I have my collection of things.

I know when I talk about, but I try to try to do two things I try to.

I'm always talking to specific individuals in the audience, and so I'm having a conversation with the audience.

And so that's that's part of the dynamic element of the performance.

And the other thing I'm trying to do is to further my thinking on the topics that I'm addressing.

And there is a theatrical element to that because it's it's like I think this is the closest thing really that it compares to is probably stand up comedy.

Although I think the routines that comedians have are probably more well and formerly practiced in the ones that you know that then the talks that I that I engage in, I don't really think of it as delivering a lecture to an audience.

I'm trying to think about complicated things in real time, with an audience there to participate and to use the audience as an indicator of whether what I'm saying is gripping and comprehensible.

Your apprehension and understandable adrenaline prior to going on stage doesn't lead you thio lean into shtick, which would be the opposite of what you're describing.

One into remain engaged in a kind of dialectic process of discovery.

Because I thought, I'm in off the I am a comedian, like for us, I would argue there is a There is a distinction between performing before 200 people or 5000 people around 200.

I feel like I've got a lot of space in there.

Now you've got no room, particularly because the other crucial difference is then is to be a laugh toe every 2030 seconds.

If there isn't, it gets pretty frosty up there is appealing to me as a comedian that's interesting, interested in furthering intellectual debate looking at their new intersections between politics and spirituality.

The's some of these evaporating context, the emergence of new ideas perhaps best exemplified by your own particular trajectory.

Is it interesting to me that these spaces are now becoming available for forms of types of performance that aren't so contingent?

It is on rapture and appear no right, And I know it is a very strange thing, and I'm not sure what to make of it.

You know, you see Sam Harris doing something quite similar.

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