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  • which one out of the three out of three I think it was Gulas are hardest.

  • Then uber then snapped.

  • And I think part of that was also the composition.

  • Eso Google had used a line that so there's this guy called her CIB And he writes like he wrote this block post about, like negotiating.

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  • Break it down to, like, detail steps again.

  • So let's do uber like Screw Facebook State engineer.

  • So Okay, So when did you start to decide?

  • Like, Okay, I'm gonna switch jobs on down like, would you do how many questions did you do that?

  • Would you do like before, uber like, start before the interview?

  • Yeah, I'm like, Yeah, let's just talk from beginning.

  • Yes.

  • So I think it was around the summer of last year 2018 when I first started thinking about it.

  • So first I did Explorer transferring internally, but there was no head count.

  • Meteo.

  • Yeah, So?

  • So then I started, Like, writing up a rough plan.

  • Um, and then I was I was kind of studying, but, like, not really seriously, it's not every day, like in July and August.

  • And then I think I got a call from a Google recruiter on day since I had interviewed them before.

  • They let me go straight in on site.

  • And so that was when I scheduled it out.

  • Like like, almost two months.

  • L on dso since I was already studied for Google.

  • A dying man apply for, I guess, many companies as possible.

  • So I applied or like, replied to like around 20 companies.

  • Come on.

  • So I just made a post about it.

  • Said are the numbers in my head, but basically out of those 20 have 11 phone screens on dhe, then 11 phone screens.

  • I like past eight of them.

  • And then I decided on sites with six um and, uh, last night like that Funnel, My final looks totally different.

  • Mind was uber, which rejected me in under 22 minutes over.

  • Rejected me for a different team before.

  • Yeah.

  • Is this how you apply for teams?

  • Uh, yeah, yeah.

  • Just for context.

  • I asked Cyrus to refer me to uber and then within five minutes.

  • Thank you.

  • That didn't even call you sexy.

  • Yeah.

  • Yeah.

  • And then And then I also applied to other companies.

  • Um, I guess I'm not super comfortable sharing just because I owned this youth you channel.

  • But basically, it's too big companies.

  • And yeah, so then and then I did to phone screen and into onset and then two offers nice 100%.

  • Yeah, except for uber, but yeah, I knew I wanted to d'oh to get, like, a lot of on sites for practice.

  • Oh, that's true.

  • And then I also wanted it for a negotiation.

  • I got fucking lucky, you know?

  • Because because because I want to I'll just blurt out.

  • You know, when I went to that was like, my first on site and thank God I got it, but yeah, nice.

  • But I also actually had a coffee, Does something different.

  • They make you do it courting challenge.

  • I just googled the cooling challenge, and I found it, and I just I just fucking coffee.

  • Face it.

  • It was totally fine.

  • I remember.

  • Um, I, like borderline fail with the first phone screen.

  • So I gave me give you a full stream.

  • Yeah.

  • Yeah, I think the challenge.

  • It was so easy.

  • It's like they gave me the challenge.

  • I I just like I copied the question.

  • I pasted it and it was a Chinese websites, like, Yeah, I just you know, Yeah, I actually remember the phone number is one of the hardest they get.

  • I got a code hard on, then I barely got it.

  • I got a second phone screen because I'm borderline already.

  • Oh, nice.

  • Yeah, and I heard like a They do a lot of, like cultural interviews.

  • Yeah, and I heard the pale Very well, too.

  • Yeah.

  • Anyways, so after you did your on site and all of them, um, yes.

  • So So which were the aunts?

  • I say you did again.

  • Six on sites.

  • Three of them are Google uber and step on, then three others.

  • Yeah, so?

  • So yes.

  • So uber was it like the Coke Harvey called Medium versus now.

  • Which one?

  • Yeah, out of the three out of three.

  • I think it was Gulas are hardest.

  • Then uber then snapped.

  • And I think part of that was also the composition eso Google had, like all five rounds were coding like data structures out of them's, whereas uber had they had a system designed around and they had behavior around And then I think same snap and I had, like, actually study a lot with a system design because I really wanted, like, a more senior level.

  • Um, so because Google is like all five coating, I was like it was pretty exhausted.

  • Yeah, yeah.

  • So I also I also had, like, similar experience with a company.

  • I also had a 55 I'll go rounds.

  • Um, like I think I got lucky because because, you know, it's either, you know what you don't like once, right?

  • Like, there's always a trick to these album questions, you know?

  • And then yes, So then that one, it was fine.

  • I did it.

  • And then for theatre company, he was like to quoting rounds.

  • And then was it three?

  • Yeah, it was two quoting around three system designed three said one like behavior, or like the airship or whatever that's called.

  • And yet was fucking long.

  • Holy crap.

  • I think it literally took from, like, nine till, like, five.

  • But for the system designed, I use that rocking the inner workings of my interview.

  • Um, yeah, I paid for that, but I realized I like every case they have.

  • They always say the same thing.

  • They dio I guess his repetitions.

  • Yeah, actually want to help me with one question because, like, the system designed question at that company, it's not always like, Oh, you know, Bill, whatever.

  • Sometimes I ask you something specific, Like, for example, I think once they said like, Oh, you know, you have this memory space, you get double block.

  • How should you like, format the memory so that it's efficient bubble blower?

  • You already have, like, a buffer and something that, and that was annoying, cause I remember, like when I was when I was doing it, you know, at one point I was doing and I was like, Okay, I'll stop you over here because, you know, it took you longer than most people.

  • I feel I feel assistant is on.

  • It's so broad that like, yeah, they go, if that's what it is.

  • A specific team.

  • All right?

  • They can go.

  • Really was lame because, like, Yeah, it was like a data infrastructure position, and I didn't even want to do the infrastructure.

  • But day they didn't have any position for, like, absolute.

  • Right?

  • Right.

  • Yeah.

  • Anyway, so on.

  • And then you got offers from Google snapping uber.

  • And then why did you choose uber?

  • Yes.

  • Oh, yes.

  • Oh, I got offers from five of the six, and then the three in serious Contention, where Google Uber and Step and s I ended up choosing uber because, Well, first of all, ghoul gave me a pretty low offer.

  • So they're notorious for down leveling on, then uber and snap because they know your tour.

  • I expected because I bombed, like, one of the questions on the good things that actually matter.

  • I think it does look like because I did.

  • I did really well, uber and snap offer on sites, and I got like, like, top of the range for the level offers.

  • So they the numbers are not higher than with Google, where the offer's already top.

  • Or was it because you negotiated?

  • They're already talking.

  • Yes, actually, yeah, eso actually with both Google with both uber and snap.

  • The offers were like the base and equity already maxed.

  • Oh, um, and I think part of that was I had actually done some, like, pre negotiation.

  • Like I had, like, set it up so that they knew that they would be competing with all these other companies.

  • Eso, like both uber and stab recruiters, knew that a ghoul on site and then, like, I think that's one thing like you don't like.

  • You can tell Rikers about upcoming on sites, especially they see my kind of impressive, even if you aren't sure if you're gonna pass it.

  • Um, and then once, like, even before they gave me the numbers, I had already told them when I was expecting and like the other companies offers.

  • So, yeah, I got I got a pretty high initial offer, okay?

  • That just, like dig in two more to dislike TC negotiation.

  • Oh, in case you guys don't know what t C s, it's total compensation.

  • If you go on blind, you wouldn't know what t c you know.

  • So T c How did you like?

  • Was it ordered that Max to t c U S O yes.

  • So what t.

  • C.

  • I think I think the most important thing is knowing how much you're worth.

  • And I think the Esso, like he said, Blind is really good for getting that an idea and also double stuff.

  • Why, you see, like, specific offers, h level.

  • So I really knew kind of the max range on dhe.

  • Then I knew that I didn't really care if it was like, I didn't care how the offer components were broken up.

  • So, like, if I could get component the components Base Equity bonus and then sign on bonus on So I didn't really care how they split it up.

  • If I wanted, like, 20 K more, I didn't care.

  • It was like like, sign on versus place because your companies don't negotiate base as much.

  • So So let's go back to, like, exactly what happened.

  • So which offer did you get first?

  • I think I got I got I got snapped first on then and then to give an offer.

  • Did you negotiate them?

  • Uh, yes, I think.

  • Yeah, I think I negotiated.

  • I think that's not They did raise the equity.

  • No, I'm just a little bit on then became the max And then I had already told another.

  • That's important.

  • I had told off these recruiters that was gonna take a while, so they didn't try to pressure made by saying like you only have three days to decide on.

  • And I think you will see this in Block Post.

  • But basically, like, never accept that, um, that usually there is bluffing.

  • And if they aren't bluffing us from our company, but yes.

  • Oh, yes.

  • Oh, I, um I told them the son of good, but I think about it, Um, and also a negotiation you don't want to be like.

  • It's not, like, adversarial thing.

  • It's kind of like trying to find something.

  • It's a good deal for both of you.

  • Uh, so yeah, so I told them that sounds good, but I need time to think about it.

  • I'll let you know when I get, like, other numbers and go.

  • And then.

  • Then you got uber.

  • Yes, goes.

  • And that was a hired and sent Well, actually, before I got sober, I had already gone.

  • So I guess that kind of company is Deanie.

  • So I had gotten like an offer from Company D.

  • That was a bit weaker and total compensation.

  • But the base salary was like significantly higher, actually.

  • But I was able to use that to say, like, based on this, you guys raise your equity on.

  • So that's one thing where, like even if another company's offers on the whole, like weaker, you can take a specific component and say, you know, like I you know, I rally really value liquid liquidity right now we're, like, consistent like, ah, steady state salary.

  • And so based on that, no king, you guys improve your offer and then you prove your snap offer.

  • And Dan, you got your uber offer?

  • Yes, and was the uber offer hired and it's now s o.

  • It was It was roughly equivalent on dso over.

  • The recruiter, like already knew exactly what the snap offer was gonna be, Um and yeah, so it was roughly quantum bits.

  • It's hard to compare because uber is a private company.

  • Were snapped this public right.

  • And so I I was pretty confident uber was going to I p o um, this year, um, which I think to what turned out to be true and on then But then, like snap is like public and equity vest every month s Oh, it's a lot more.

  • A lot, lot lower risk, but also at the same time.

  • Like pretty high risk too, because Snape wasn't doing that Well, yeah, eso Yeah, I had to come up in their own way of comparing two ended uber increased their offer because of your snap off.

  • Yes, eso actually, yes.

  • Oh, the, um Well, there was already the max And so I knew that the main thing could've proven with signing bonus.

  • So I went on blind, did some searching to see if it was possible on.

  • Then I eventually like pushed for certain signing bonus.

  • And I used a line that so there's this guy called her CIB And he writes like he wrote this block post about, like, negotiating.

  • And he says, like s So you have this long time none of these compete companies competing for you.

  • So at the very end, the final like strategy should use is like because right now your leverage is that you have these other companies.

  • You have time on your hands, a zone element on.

  • So if you give away that time advantage, then you can get something back for it.

  • And so basically, what you do that, as you say, I can sign right now, like basically, and the process with everybody else.

  • If you guys give me 25 more on Dhe, then yeah, and then usually wanted to get it, because the deal right away, So interesting.

  • So you got a little bit up?

  • Yeah.

  • So, Indiana, what was a TC for?

  • Like, snap uber like Google?

  • Yeah.

  • So that depends on how you calculated but basically around through UK for snapping uber and then for Google about like, 240.

  • That's the reason.

  • So 300 k for, like, snapping uber.

  • And what level is that?

  • No.

  • 44 And that's pretty much at the top.

  • Yes.

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