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  • Hello, subscribers.

  • Hello, others.

  • It's David Hoffman again filmmaker, and I'm about to show you another clip from 1979 which seems to be very popular with many of my subscribers.

  • Another clip from this same movie that I made back then the information society, primetime Public television, looking at the coming of the information Age.

  • So go to Lancaster, Pennsylvania, which is a typical beautiful town that has the coming of the information age in the banks.

  • Ah, in the airport, in the hotels and still the old timers, the farmers, the farmers that had lived there for hundreds of years.

  • So I got old people and I got young people and I made this television special, which is just terrific.

  • The information society primetime, PBS looking at that moment 1979 and I throw away everything I did news.

  • The film is the film.

  • Why don't I throw it away?

  • You ask yourself.

  • Dumb is what I say.

  • I just didn't see the value since I was carrying £39,000 of stuff with me when I moved between one house and another when I was moving fairly regularly during that time in my life.

  • I didn't see carrying old 16 millimeter work picture, which is all scratched up and filled with spices and work sound.

  • We just fill with punch holes and other stuff like that, but threw it out Nam on YouTube several years ago, and I'm looking for material that you my subscribers would like to see.

  • And I know you like 1979 these old stuff that I film on Wall Street and with the old lady who is 98 in 1979.

  • And so I go look into my basement and I find these rolls of outtakes, not the intakes.

  • All the good stuff, but the outtakes, all this stuff I didn't want 16 millimeter work print filled with holes and scratches.

  • 16 millimeters sound filled with beeps and other stuff, and I copy it.

  • You're about to see an old couple who talk about the old days, and it's almost as good as the 90 year old lady.

  • It's just fascinating.

  • Walt, the man of the couple is negative towards everything.

  • I can still remember the interview.

  • There isn't the thing about the modern day.

  • He liked everything about the old days.

  • He liked kind of sounds like some of my commentators.

  • In any case, take a look at these old people.

  • I think you'll find them interesting.

  • And please be tolerant of the fact this is not my interview style.

  • Thes air.

  • The outtakes from my interview.

  • Oh, you can't look at him with emerald.

  • 20 sound.

  • 20.

  • Why don't you start Jenny by telling me what Lancaster was like Lancaster when you were a kid, what changes?

  • What was it like then and what has changed the most?

  • I remember one of us a child.

  • I only knew what happened around our own home because I never got farther than a few miles from home at that time.

  • And you traveled by horse and buggy or carriage or else he rode a horse.

  • And, uh, then my father was one of the first people around there to get a car.

  • You got a car for the first of a truck?

  • Well, it was no world, but I mean, it would be well, now, had these big wheels with solid tires.

  • And on a Sunday we took out.

  • We put benches in and saddle on and went to church that way On week days, he took out the benches and loaded it up for market.

  • He attended market in writing and to produce to market, which he grew up.

  • I didn't do much work on the farm.

  • I worked in the house.

  • How did you get the information then?

  • And one person on the line?

  • Talk to somebody else where everybody also that line would also find out in those days was different to be in.

  • Oh, yeah, it's a difference then and now.

  • Well, because I never lived in a town.

  • We lived out on the farm and when we wanted to do shopping, then we had to go to the city, of course, but that was a day's trip.

  • You took to one a day to drive to the city and do your shopping, and you didn't go very often once a year on a shopping trip and for groceries.

  • My father would get the things at a wholesale.

  • Please get one case of shredded wheat.

  • One case of corn flakes in one case of greatness, Then we alternated you think is the wall.

  • Is the world a smaller place, huh?

  • That's hard to define.

  • That has a lot of good points, but it has its drawbacks.

  • Like everything else, we have tourism in this kind of nice, you know, tremendous influx of tourists.

  • And we thought in the beginning that was a wonderful thing.

  • You know, it stimulated business, but now it's becoming all full of hot dog stands and everything else and trash along the road.

  • You wish they were in here.

  • Sometimes you wish it was back in the natural state when you first came here and I it wasn't really Yes.

  • Yes, it has.

  • But it has made himself to two.

  • We had a challenge then and be accepted it.

  • And we took it.

  • Andrea, we enjoyed ourselves in it, and that's what I like.

  • If you have a challenge, if you have it too easy, that's what's gonna happening to our nation.

  • Are we have things just given to us If we feel we can't don't wanna work with the government, take care of us those days we didn't know about this for both.

  • I think things are going faster and faster and faster and harder for all of us.

  • Me and you, Our mental mental institutions are being crowded because of the great stress put upon us now.

  • We had stresses in the early days.

  • I bet that if you had some hostile Indians, it wasn't very comfortable.

  • But we met the challenge and and savors the Pilgrims did.

  • When they came over, they they didn't have anything to eat, but they did the best they could.

  • They didn't have any Social Security.

  • They didn't have any good is to take care of him.

  • What about Abraham Lincoln?

  • If they don't have to do good and to take care of him, we don't have a heard of it.

  • But what about today in terms of stress is what what about what's good about all this information and change?

  • I mean the fact that there's all this stuff, the fact that you didn't see the world and you have seen the fact that there's telecommunications, the fact that all this stuff, what's good about how has it improved life for all of us?

  • Well, it's made life easier in a certain sense, but it doesn't give us the challenge anymore that we had.

  • Although it depends how you look at it, you can look at it as a challenge, no matter how high the stressing the moments are but it doesn't have that.

  • That's something that we had in the beginning that made a strong.

  • When the nation starts, there's strong because they have Thio.

  • I have found that out.

  • When Mr Doe in Israel, uh, the a few 1,000,000 Jewish people Israelis they knew they had a go ahead and do things to make a living and get a foothold by the Arabs.

  • They didn't care because it being a difficult just life is just going like that.

  • Well, I was thinking of, you know, if you got sick and you needed a doctor, But in those days, you had to take your horse in your body and go after the doctor.

  • Now, you just call him on the phone or get you know, Ronald the hospital.

  • He doesn't come.

  • He did.

  • They just sent an ambulance from the hospital.

  • Charge you money.

  • You know what is that change done for us?

  • The fact that most of us are now not on the farm and most of us now not in the factory One thing it's put a lot of cost on on the food because you know the reason this much food raised anymore Because people aren't on the farm.

  • Nothing we pay the price is when you go to the supermarket, you pay a high price for the for food.

  • We'll see in the earlier before my time.

  • Yet the farmer self sufficient.

  • They raised everything that spawned her own clothes.

  • Not in my generation we're pretty self sufficient, but we didn't spend on clothes anymore.

  • But we had our chickens.

  • We had a page.

  • We killed a baby.

  • If every year and ADT account for milk, coffee, milk to make cheese, a whole different kind of cheese and you were almost self sufficient.

  • But not quite.

  • We didn't spend her clothes, although in those days the feed company sent their feet in Florida.

  • Call it back.

  • So my wife it make dresses for the girls are three girls went to school in what a beautiful Florida feed bags.

  • But she was skillet sewing so she could do that.

  • You know you need it more today than you did in those days.

  • You were more isolated.

  • You didn't have all the people around you.

  • You do today get in contact with him as a family on the farm.

  • You were practically isolated.

  • Was that all good, but I wouldn't just no more than I'd want to give up my electric stove to go back to a cook, stewed the way I had in the kitchen for many years, cooked with a cook stove, made my meals with wood and coal, and now have the electric stove.

  • I wouldn't think of going back so naturally, things are better today than they were in those days.

  • But for that time we had a good life.

  • But dippers fun.

  • The challenge was great, but the challenge is great today, too.

  • If you could make a success when everybody says you can't, that's a challenge that I think it's a good thing for any young present doing.

  • Get news, Any state news, our country news.

  • You waited days to get it.

  • You didn't.

  • You know you didn't.

  • Sometimes you waited a week before you before you knew of war was over.

  • Sometimes I was good if you didn't want to talk about a bad thing.

  • For instance, if he wouldn't known about Three Mile Island within a week or two, it would have been wonderful, you know.

  • But the night's everything even they don't know you know all about it, so that gives you, in a sense, that makes you not more educated but smarter.

  • You can find August in a few moments time.

  • In fact, if you can afford it, you can have a electronic device in your home.

  • Give it a stock report on the minute all the time.

  • And what good for you.

  • I don't know.

  • I don't think so.

  • I don't think you should know too much too fast because they keep your mind in a world.

  • Just take it easy.

  • Information society.

  • You think that's what's called the information societies?

  • That's a job well, in a way, but not to go a lot in it.

  • Relaxing.

  • Enjoy your let your soul catch up with your body into every Norman.

  • But I gotta say it depends on your own opinion about it.

  • If you let it concern you that you worry, then it's better you wouldn't have it.

  • But if you want to, just a matter of information.

  • The whole thing is life in life is just what?

  • How you consider things your man delighted to torture.

  • If you take it as a challenge, it's a wonderful thing, just like going the market like Bob There's no one like I did for many years.

  • Get up two o'clock in the morning, but on 50 miles and load well, that's a dog's life to some people.

  • To me it was a challenge, and I enjoyed it More technology is creeping in beside tourism.

  • Tourism is what brought him in because of our plane, people here and what not.

  • It's altogether.

  • Changing the countryside is changing the landscape and everything.

  • The thing that the tourists are coming to see, it's gradually changing to a tourist community, which is not good.

  • So it's.

  • But it's hard to keep the balance here.

  • It's just it's hard to define.

  • Well, I tell you, I like to get my hands into the dirt, you know.

  • And as I told you, I did office work for many years, and it was like a concentration camp to me, and I had no money to go out and buy a farm.

  • And so her father, it's getting old and he quit farming and all her brothers quit, too.

  • And so finally he left me start what he didn't take a city slicker like me could make a successor, but he was rather looked and put my mother in law.

  • She's stuck with me.

  • And then after I started, things went alright.

  • So he did too then.

  • So I had the best modern, larger person could ever have a really dead.

  • She really helped me out and we had a lot experiences.

  • You know, I remember you used to have an old mule, and he was He had an I Q of pretty high, I think because ASU is my wife rang the dinner bell.

  • He'd stop cultivating anything it was doing for him.

  • And he want to go into the pond to get his carpet break, you know?

  • So I had to quit.

  • Does it sound while you're another generation, see?

  • And we look back to what we thought were the good old days, but yet we wouldn't want to go back to them.

  • It would be like these two.

  • So we're thankful.

  • I'm glad we could.

  • So he got to farm because I lived on a farm, but I didn't want to live on a farm.

  • Uh, I went to school.

  • Abbas, a school teacher she told after nothing.

  • But I would like to go out and get all dirty and one thing I hated with milking cows.

  • I had to get up before I went to school and meal one or two calls every morning.

  • And one time one kicked real bad.

  • And it scared me that I said I didn't want to milk.

  • So when he talked about a farm, I said, Well, you got to promise me that I don't have to milk.

  • So that was the only stipulation.

  • Okay?

  • He promised.

  • And he always kept his promise.

  • I never needed to milk, but I would like to work in the garden.

  • I learned to like that.

  • I didn't.

  • As a girl, I didn't work out.

  • My mother needed me in the house with six brothers.

  • They could do the outside work.

  • I worked in the house.

  • But then, ah, big.

  • When we were married, I started growing flowers, and I found that enjoyed it was therapeutic how his cookies doing.

  • She's known all over the countryside for famous decorated cookies.

  • Do you think that that that the fact that you've been all these places in the world you have opinions about world has benefits to the fact that we all know more about each other?

  • Oh, yeah.

  • It gives you perspective.

  • It enlarges your vision.

  • You know things and how people live.

  • We have no idea how the other happened.

  • Where lives until they're there.

  • I was in a Maasai village, but no white men never get in because of some missionary who gave them corn when they were starving and he got me in a little bit of huts.

  • While you have no idea what that's like, you know what a lot of people I know.

  • I've seen pictures in South America.

  • I've seen the violins without any clothes in the Amazon and things like that.

  • They live Justus, primitive as possible.

  • It's all right to them, I guess.

  • But they have, ah, holding fear of the welfare and tribes committed radium, steal their women and things like that.

  • And it's a hard life for them to, you know, let's talk about technology for technology in the form when you were young, Student was a lot of technology.

  • Wasn't there 100 years before that?

  • What about technology?

  • Well, you have to have it because of the increase in the population.

  • We have all these people who feel we shouldn't have this and should be clean, which is a good thing, but you can't have it with an increased population, you have toe use, chemicals, toe, accelerate the growth of the plants.

  • You have to have some kind of insecticides and her besides and only thing.

  • So you have to use it judiciously.

  • But you can't.

  • You can't produce enough to feed the world in the way we did it 100 years ago.

  • It's impossible.

  • So we have to use the transition over to the things that we have to do now.

  • And that's where we have the challenge, not a meat that thing in a way that's acceptable to our health.

  • And two are hoping we could have clean out.

  • But if you don't have enough T that don't help you much, you'll die anyway.

  • Let me ask you one more question about that right now.

  • Today, this looks like the farm, the center, but in fact, it's not because you read The Wall Street Journal.

  • I'm sure Bob reads a lot of publications, has to do with the price of things the way we have to know in order to a plan off next year's affairs and everything else.

  • We have to know how the thing is going supposing a certain crop, it's way or produce.

  • Why I produce it idea.

  • Produce something else in his place.

  • Then when everybody else quits, produce that because of a production you jump in When there are everything has its cycles.

  • Everything in life has its ups and downs.

  • Upton.

  • Then you have to study them.

  • And after a while you get in the rhythm of things.

  • Then you apply yourself to the rhythm for so you have to use your little you have inside of your head.

  • Good advantage, you know.

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