Name: Sir Keir Starmer on the future of Labour and Brexit
Uploaded: 2020-03-24T07:11:01.000Z
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the new European Commission president says that it will be impossible to reach a comprehensive deal with the UK by the end of the year.

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Do you then favor extending the transitional period?

But we have been challenging the government on this for months because we've made the argument that trade deals take a long time.

Usually it's measured in years, and we've been saying, You're not gonna get done in 12 months.

One of things that we are most concerned to do is to make sure that if in six months time it's obvious that the deal isn't gonna be done by the end of the year.

But Parliament has to have the chance to say, Look, don't trash us out without a deal.

From the last parliament, you've been cleared to say that the whole leave remained divided.

Actually, you just want to kick the can down the road again.

You know, we're talking about something else completely.

We will leave the EU in three weeks time and therefore the debate about leave and remain goes because we will be outside the you.

But it doesn't mean that we stop challenging the government about what the future relationship should look like.

Because once we've left that future relationship with the is all important.

What can you set people's minds at rest and just guarantee that if you walk into number 10 at some point in the future, you can guarantee that the UK will not be rejoining the you?

The argument about second referendum was blown away in the last election that we've just had, So the focus now has to be on two things.

The first is what is the relationship with the guarantee?

Well, I don't think rejoining is on the agenda.

I mean, where the future generations want to do that is up to them.

I mean, when you be shedding a tear on January the 31st.

Look, I know I made the case for staying in the U, but I accept the results not only of the referendum, but the general action we're leaving in three weeks time.

But that doesn't mean that the challenge the government falls away with it.

We have to challenge them on the deal that they are going to do.

I think they're going to do a very what we've been calling hard Brexit, which were damaging for businesses and for the economy.

And it's our job to prevent them doing that.

It's our job to make sure that they don't trash out of the U without a deal which will take jobs with it.

So the idea that now somehow the Labour Party backs off from scrutinizing and challenging the government.

We have it on then, of course, the next question will be where the future trade deals going to be.

Are they going to be with America and on walk terms?

And we have to be in there for that challenge as well?

And you've been challenging the government today.

The other big international story on our program tonight.

Just tell me Waas, Qasem Soleimani, a terrorist.

In your view, look, he was he was a man who did terrible things.

He's bean well, he he has Bean branded as a regional menace, and he has responsibility for many acts, which all of us would declare to be unlawful.

The point in issue here is whether or not what the Americans have done is lawful or not on the case.

Simply hasn't Bean made out by the Americans, and now our government, instead of challenging them and saying, Look, you're going to take acts like this you have got to justify It looks as if it's blindly following them on that.

I'm pleased that today it looks as though it looks as though maybe some de escalation, and that's a step in the right direction.

But I still think that our government should be holding the Americans to account rather than blindly following them.

Let's talk about your leadership bid then, because that's one of the reasons you're speaking tonight on.

Do you accept some responsibility for that election defeat, given that you pushed labor to beam or pro remain?

And according to the former MP, Gareth Snell, I'll just quote from those of us in leave seats with small majorities in towns and small cities begged, kissed armor to listen to us.

When we told him that the party's Brexit policy was losing as votes, he wouldn't listen and we lost.

I went across 44 constituencies in this general election on with every campaign team.

We talked about what was coming up, what people are saying to us that there were many reasons there was the leadership, right or wrong.

That was the Brexit position, different issues on the Brexit position.

There was anti Semitism and we need to understand an address.

Collectively, we lost the trust of the public to be a force for good in a force for change, and we need to address that.

But I don't think it was any one issue, and I think some of them were longer term issues.

If you look at some of the seats we lost in the Heartland's these air seats, which we've been losing over many, many years now, Brexit exacerbated that other issues exacerbated that.

But I think the idea that there's one single reason and that's the silver bullet.

You deal with that, then all our troubles are over.

It is not properly to analyze what's happened.

What I want to do is focus on where we go from here, how we rebuild our party.

Well, let me put that to the test because I want to just know how many of the policies that you just stood on you'd keep.

For example, do you still want to compensate WASPy women?

For all of those two policies at the heart of your manifesto, I'm not gonna go through each and every issue manifest that were really important manifesto commitments that we made, which were we would keep.

But I'm focused with those two thought that people know where you're traveling the next election.

It's slightly to bay five years time, but you're standing for election now.

But those two policies just one gauge where you're traveling to as potential leader.

The fundamental shift in our policy from 2015 to 2017 and 2019 to aim or radical politics was the right fundamental shift.

Big issues like being a party of anti austerity being a party that wants to invest in our public service is and in manufacturing really important shifts.

And I'm very concerned that as we move forward we don't either trash the last Labour government or trash the last four years.

But I'm equally clear that what we the question we have to answer now is what is going into your manifesto in 2024.

What have you got to say for the late 20 twenties on the 2030 is because the Labour Party only wins elections when it can glimpse the future and spell out how that could be better.

 And that is going to be in 20 probably 2024 maybe before. 