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  • away for party leaders on your commissioners and prime minister.

  • Yeah, that's right.

  • That's a minimum for breakfast.

  • Not your typical holiday snap.

  • Some Brits idea of the Euro elite.

  • We asked Stephen Kinnock, Hello, Thorning Schmidt to reflect on Britain on the brink of Brexit.

  • I think the Europeans look at the UK right lower think Well, there's a bit of arrogance is saying We are so great so we can do everything ourselves.

  • So there's a bit of arrogance in that we look a bit of a basket case countries.

  • Well, that's a strong word, basketcase, but definitely a country which is very divided and not very clear where what is the place of the UK in the world?

  • But it was a perception of arrogant Maiti euro elites imposing rules on Britain helped to feed Brexit one of reasons.

  • Maybe one day.

  • And Brexit this country is that people felt this was a project the you that was a lovely little stitch up for the elites and they might see you.

  • Maybe I have the golden couple of the elites wandering in and out of the bin bag 92 I mean, s O, but of course, people can think what they want.

  • The devil Sensible?

  • Yeah, yeah, I get I get that completely.

  • I'm from a not privileged background in Southfork opening.

  • I get that completely.

  • Citizens of no work.

  • Yeah, but I think the question to ask have we acted, managed to regulate the market economy in a way so benefits people in the European Union, old and all we have actually managed to have better social provisions, bet environmental provisions that anywhere on the planet you've got constituents in South Wales, there is still a sort of smoldering volcano of indignation isn't there against the elites, It's helped to fuel the referendum, and Europe is still seen as a top down operation.

  • I I mean, I think Europe's definitely been used of the whipping boy and the scapegoat.

  • The reality is that the failings off the British economy are the fault of the failings of domestic political leadership that they still bitter about the way they were when they want that Brexit, of course.

  • And you've had decades off politicians blaming the U, and it was convenient.

  • They supported each other's political careers in Denmark and in Wales.

  • Both say that unlike some remain er's.

  • They knew the moment Britain voted out.

  • The Brexit could not be stopped.

  • I am from the start.

  • Said we have a mandate to leave the European Union, but to stay close to it was 52 for meeting people who kept the flange that you're flying the candle burning for.

  • Looks like a referendum.

  • No, Brexit.

  • You'd have to ask them.

  • No.

  • Yeah.

  • You culpable.

  • They missed an opportunity in this country is paying the price.

  • Yeah, I think that we could have had a sensible, smart Brexit.

  • Instead, we've ended up with a thumping Tory majority on dhe.

  • Ah, hard Brexit, Almost certainly possibly even.

  • No deal.

  • But it's also this this country.

  • I mean, I love this country and I live here.

  • But this country had lost The art of compromise and compromise is seen as a weak thing.

  • I think that the fixation on the second referendum stopped a lot of people for reaching a handout and reach a compromise.

  • Jeremy Corbyn was more right than Tony Blair in 2017.

  • After that election, he said, We've campaign for Brexit, albeit a different records it from the one that Theresa may what might want Tony Blair was trying to keep the flag going for canceling Brexit.

  • Actually, on this one, Joe Corbin was on the money.

  • You think I think we should wait?

  • Think so?

  • I mean, I think Jeremy's big.

  • I mean, I can see that I'm not a member off the Labour Party.

  • I don't think he fought hard enough to remain.

  • And I actually feel if we'd had a Labour leader leader who had fought hard to put the argument forward to remain in these couple, of course.

  • Yeah, but once a day for the one that wants the referendum, it happened.

  • And after 2017 off that general election, he's saying we fought for a type of Brexit were committed at Brexit.

  • We should have.

  • We should have stuck to our guns.

  • Jeremy Corbyn was 27 1 of the reasons that we did people like here Starmine guided him off in a different direction.

  • One of the reasons I did so well in 2017 general election onlookers, we had a position on Brexit which resonated with the British people.

  • The shadow cabinet took a decision to commit to a second referendum, and I think from that point onwards we were always going to struggle to keep our support in all of those seats that went blue on the 12th of December so tragically, how do we look?

  • Two days now we've bean allies, economic allies in the same club.

  • But now we're opponents rivals.

  • Now we're not rivals were no.

  • Opponents were still all Europeans, and I feel like that in the talks.

  • I think that I think there was a fisheries, no word.

  • But I think we have to remember that there were still allies.

  • So even though they will be harsh negotiations, we have to find each other again.

  • We have to realize that we have so many interests and we have to work together to solve all these big, big issues that can't be sold about one government alone.

  • And that's why I will never I will never understand why you k in this Global Age was so many global challenges chose to make themselves smaller rather than to grab more influence.

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