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  • Welcome back to the debate, Joining me on the show today.

  • Clinton Morrison and Plymouth Argyle manager Ryan Low.

  • Guys.

  • Let's turn our attention to Spurs.

  • Not been a brilliant few weeks for Tottenham.

  • Crashed out of the Champions League, of course.

  • Four.

  • Nil on aggregate to Leipzig at the F A Cup in Origin.

  • Penalties Company.

  • Eighth in the Premier League.

  • What is your take on?

  • Something for lost?

  • You reach Vincent.

  • Disappointed, massively disappointed, underachieving.

  • I know they've got injuries, no canes to so called.

  • Obviously, that's a big blow and losing son and those of freaky place for them.

  • That would be regular stars.

  • And you lose Bert violent Davis for the second leg against I realize that, but I just look at them and I think defensively struggling massively.

  • Listen, I don't know if Josie's he's still good manager are still lacking as a manager, I think.

  • Give him to the end of it.

  • Obviously, given next season's what about giving money to spend, had a start next season and then see how he goes on.

  • A lot of people will criticize Josie and say, Has he evolved as he moved forward?

  • Obviously you look at the lax of Jorgen Clock Pep Guardiola.

  • Probably the two best managers for me in world football at the moment.

  • But he needs to try and evolve and maybe change it because at the moment we're going backwards.

  • Listen, the players have to have a look at yourself there.

  • They're underperforming massively.

  • And that just goes to show me how well Patina was doing with that with them.

  • Quote.

  • But you can see from Even though they got a Champions League final last season, there was there was a problem.

  • They got to the Champions League final by luck.

  • There was a lot of luck, but you got on your lucky football's a credit to the place they did.

  • But when you miss a key player like okay, is it?

  • We'll chat about all the circumstances of the injuries in Jakarta.

  • Let's focus on Joe's a first.

  • We never look.

  • It is win percentage from his first spell in the Premier League when I was a Chelsea, of course, for a successful time 17.8% win ratio, second spell in the Premier League with Chelsea Man United and top them, of course, 55.9% generation Of course, Joseph Marino has been one of the most decorated managers in history.

  • Right?

  • Is he?

  • Just listen to what?

  • Clinton saying.

  • They're talking about Peppe and clapping their styles.

  • Is he still a special one for you, Josie?

  • No, it is definitely not the special one, I think, as Clinton alluded to the special ones of clopping on Glide.

  • The order for me and Brendan Rodgers should have a shelter as well.

  • I think he's a He's a good manager.

  • Wet, muddy annual.

  • Does he say things for the media?

  • Does he say things about his players?

  • Should he keep that in else?

  • I think you're setting things.

  • You can say what you do, but I think you need to find the formula now of get in that win percentage ratio.

  • Bob Hope It's officer manager Chris.

  • These are top managers for me and I'm looking.

  • I looked at them without the biggest respect out there that, you know, you eventually want to try and get where they are.

  • But I think Marino yeah, warning probably needs some money to get some players and you probably want to change the style of play, but can then players there potentially no, it just goes to show how well party Gino did do for May.

  • Pacino was more galvanized.

  • The squad used to will know better, being short on funds, and I get that in quickly about togetherness with them.

  • He always had his arm around, but you're still not before and saying clubs bought at this moment in time.

  • Is he just trying to finish his eyes?

  • He possibly can and get the season over Darwin and hopefully get some money to spend, because I think he certainly there's neither interesting hearing you talk about Ollie, though in the previous part, saying that he needs time and he had that time in the form of Man United, it has seemed to turn the corner.

  • Is it a bit unfettered?

  • Judge Jose, so early on because he hasn't had a full scene?

  • Do you think we need to give him time before you judge?

  • That's what I said before.

  • You can't just keep giving them given contractor two or three years or for your contracts thes managers who are in a lot of lot of money, by the way, on getting to them.

  • After 6 to 8 months, you can't do it.

  • What I'd like to know is, you know, now that the new stadiums opened, you know, we were talking about the comparisons with Liverpool for nine years ago.

  • We're talking where Tottenham put all their eggs in one basket for the new start New stadium, where Liverpool didn't and went on a producer on board from players because they never got the new stadium.

  • Is Daniel Levy going to give Joe's even in your 200 million instrument suspend on certain players?

  • Well, I think he is, because I don't think we know where they went there.

  • And if you ain't gonna being guaranteed money solely at wonder percent, Marino needs 345 players of his own color.

  • But of what he feels benefit beneficial.

  • That's not much on given the chance six months down the line, it's not where and then, you know, I think most people say yes.

  • Well, he's giving the money, is given a chance that somewhere.

  • But Josie 1,000,000?

  • It was still a fantastic manager.

  • Does he need the personnel?

  • Does he need the players?

  • Doesn't need the characters?

  • Do they need to play a style of football?

  • 100%?

  • Yeah, so We need time, but also we need money.

  • He's spoken a lot.

  • A lot of pre match post match interviews about the need for a pre season with a fully fit squad.

  • He can't wait for July, tohave his squad.

  • Implement his plans.

  • How important is a preseason for Josie?

  • You mentioned a lot.

  • Yeah, how come that will affect how successful he will become?

  • It's on again.

  • I think he wants implements.

  • Is style is non negotiables.

  • Whether that's, you know, everybody covered under spends or you don't give the ball the way you do, you can get back.

  • What whatever is non negotiables are you need to make sure he comes from that into players on.

  • I think sometimes you is the players at Tottenham who probably don't like the idea of the way.

  • And Marino.

  • Where's Pasha?

  • Possibly.

  • Yeah, is you upset one of two plays along the way under percent us, but does he need four or five players to come in and go right?

  • You're my mold.

  • Um, I'm building a team around use and this is the way I want used to play.

  • 1% needs that chance.

  • You know what?

  • The thing I worry about and this is a big worry is that Harry Kane?

  • Is that the peak of his career?

  • He wants to play Champions League football.

  • I think Tottenham have to somehow get into the Champions D for next season.

  • I know it is his club and he loves the club.

  • Harry Kane and I don't think you're leaving this summer.

  • I think it's a back you to keep Harry Caine if you're playing Champions League football.

  • Not just Hurricane Son as well, cause son 15.

  • Don't finish in a Champions League place.

  • I'm not saying he's gonna leave.

  • Lose it.

  • Levies had turns because Hurricane should be playing in the Champions League, One of the best strikers in European football scores go.

  • So that's not just Hurricane.

  • That other pleasure on that place.

  • I think I think he came again.

  • Don't we?

  • Don't know.

  • But I think you've reached back Georgie Marina because yours Emily no would have said to win the captain, the leader and the main one of the club.

  • This is what I want to do.

  • But I need help now.

  • There's no way for May.

  • I don't think Alec is gonna jump ship this season, that Chapman.

  • I agree next season, if you don't make Champions League.

  • Andi gives him 12 months ago like one, then go forward.

  • You go on, it doesn't produce them, then became a 10.

  • I said, we'll have to go to the realm of their Bar Stone or whatever.

  • Ongoing Play Champions League and win it.

  • Plenty of trophies.

  • So I think it's a big, important 12 months for Georgie 1,000,000 actually.

  • But also me.

  • It's a big show before him because of what type of place he could attract the top.

  • Yeah, mentioned how he came there, of course.

  • Out injured.

  • As we all know, another player out injured was Steven Burg Vine from the Burnley game taught him having very, very bad luck indeed, with injuries.

  • These were the scenes off the back of tot mom's drawer against Burnley on it just in flute illustration to say sorry Thean Juries that talking about now these are just the players that have been out for a sustained period of time.

  • It's worth pointing out.

  • There have been injuries to other players, not even on this list the lights of Harry winks and surgery.

  • But these are the players that had sustained period of time.

  • Clinton, and look at this list is not just quantity.

  • It's quality as well as you could argue that that's the basis of almost Tottenham's.

  • A lot of them starting players.

  • Let's sell so certainly charming son.

  • Certainly Harry Kane, Ben David, Younger Tanah Lot A really key players.

  • When you look at that injury list, do you have sympathy for Josie?

  • Could it could any team have done much better with that injury list?

  • Do you think, of course, you have sympathy.

  • You lose your main marksman in Harry Kane, obviously, and Human Song, who then stepped into Harry K shoes and so so called the so called star in his play of the year last year.

  • It's a SoCo is a player in midfield.

  • He's that bathroom at Baron.

  • Randy takes you up the field.

  • It goes past challenges.

  • He's really good.

  • The one player you should do more is Adam Belly.

  • I think he was the record silent.

  • I've watched a lot of him at Leon.

  • I think he's our super player, technically, very, really good, But you need to get to witness all that.

  • He's been critical, but it needs to But instead of coming out and criticize him in public, keeping it in house and maybe he's a play needs the arm around the shoulder and tell him how good he can be making work on his fitness.

  • Listen, the player the player has to look at yourself as well.

  • You've gone to a big black club like Tottenham.

  • You have to produce.

  • Make sure in