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Both of you were it that game yesterday, and that's the focus for the most potent split on the back pages between Liverpool and then looking ahead to that, that may interest the Darby, but you've gone early in your column, Mr Dunn, I read to you at the primarily title such formality question left vote whether it's gonna be presented in front of a crowd or not this all around Corona virus and the impact it could have on on Little which you would have expected to write a start this season?
No, certainly not a team win the title in March in the possibility of a team when it sounded much.
It'll probably be early April, um, on DDE.
When you look at it, you see in yourself you know how 27 wins out of 29 games, it's a It's a remarkable story, and that's why you know we're still leading on this story.
It's why it's still dominates is because it's a remarkable story for football team to win that amount of games.
That percentage of games 82 points When Cough said it in the press conference yesterday with past 18 point today, you thought, you know it's two points in March.
It sze just absolutely remarkable on.
That's why it remains such a fascinating story and on this idea that they are stumbling towards it.
It's just nonsense, you know, they would not game yesterday.
Okay, People are writing today saying it was a Navy win.
We know they deserved to win the game for with minds of great equalizer later on.
Little probably should have been further ahead by then.
And that's, I think, something there.
The description that was become about how how good this loophole team is on dhe, how good this one is being.
You know, I've seen an awful lot of loophole the season.
An awful lot.
Andi.
I can't remember seeing a game this.
I've seen games where maybe that grow late, winner.
Do you think?
Oh, well, that might be, You know, that's the rub of the green, but I haven't seen the game that they've worn and they haven't deserved to win, Not one game.
I cannot say this one game that I've seen him, and I said, Well, you know what?
They're fortunate.
Win that game.
They might've been forged it in the manner they've only but not in their overall performance.
And that is the same yesterday.
They continue to be the best team in games win games, and that's why you know we'll go down is a remarkable campaign, No fortunate.
So when the game deserved to win again, I think I'll take a slight issue it out.
I think they're phenomenally season and the victories tell that story, don't they?
I think that individually, some of the best football I've I've seen other than the great Barcelona side in last 20 years was played by Liverpool and it has played last season.
It's bastard and season pour against mansion sitting 2 to 1 too much city.
Those performance were extraordinary.
I don't think they've.
I didn't quite hit those heights.
Maybe they know being tested.
It tends to come in Champions League quarterfinals, semifinals and such, right?
So so I haven't seen them quite as good as that, but they've just beans.
So I think this season's more about character.
It's almost like the end of last season, which was also phenomenal, but they didn't win entitled.
They've doubled down in terms of like we're gonna do is it was reminding me of the team placed your heart, Andy the evident team.
I think I want a cup in 84 and there's this almost a sense of inevitability.
They were so good even though they hadn't done about that, that they're probably win the league next season and they know they haven't not wanted that season.
They just went straight through one of next season, and that's a certain mentality to live more.
Half.
We were looking at a defensive record earlier, and it's actually not quite as good as lost season.
So it's no in the individual areas of their obviously brilliant everywhere.
It's no in those individual areas, it's morning mentality that they just haven't let anything slip.
They've been really ruthless.
And is Sheffield United away?
Games that really should have probably been draws have turned into winds, which is how you end up with the extraordinary points table they have.
I'm not trying to stare it, but about that points about whether they deserved to win each one of those some West Van West Ham fans that might have another one about that.
But this this techno, he says.
The test of nerve from them.
Is it?
Is it nervous?
No, If I mean, if they're stumbling and staggering, I mean, I wish I could stumble in struggle like this on.
Actually, I keep coming back to this point that even if they lose two Athletico Madrid to get knocked out of the Champions League on Wednesday night, when they win the title, almost certainly in March, they will be world European and Premier League champions on.
I promise you in in two years time, nobody will look back at that achievement and say, or they had a bit of a stumble in, you know, in late February, early March, after they had their mini break.
I think the analysis of their slight dip in performances doesn't take any account of the law of human nature, which is that when you were that far clear in a title race, you are bound to slacken off.
Maybe 5% in 5% could be enough in the Premier League for you to make a defensive error.
What food or against born with as it did yesterday and for the other team to score.
They haven't kept a clean sheet in five Liverpool so that the performances on at the level they were at, but they are on their way to, ah, a monumental achievement in English football.
Andi, I agree with both these guys.
The ruthlessness is there.
The mentality is there on.
The talent is there and the numbers are Certainly though, you know we're looking at we're looking at one of the great English football, not one season two seasons because they will be champions of everything by the by the time this is over.
I think I think what what's that made people talk about this scenario?
Really, how good a team are there and is, would it be an anti climax?
They only win the primary goal.
Of course, it wouldn't be, you know, I mean, everything has been lifted.
Champions like last year, everything has been focused on winning that Premier League to the exclusion off almost everything else.
I'm sure that I'm sure they're still giving the champions the maximum attention, but simply to the cup competitions on Dhe.
So you've got this scenario because they're so far ahead.
You could have the scenario where if they don't get past that, let's go Madrid on Wednesday and then City lose next couple of games.
Little could win the league in sort of mid march on, have nothing else and left it then.
So So you've got two months of this season left, which is basically 11 basic, one lap of honor, 12 months, 18.
Does that matter on their legacy?
You know we will.
No, it doesn't match on the legacy and also where I would say so Well, almost being devil's advocate is the sense that when we talk about record points in the amount of winds, when you look back of teams have won the title, you don't say Well, they won the title, you might say quite the oldest team won it with 100 points.
That was a notable achievement.
But in general, you don't look back and say you don't differentiate between teams have won it with 79 points on teams have wanted with 99 points without champions.
When you knights of one the trouble e.
I think it was around 80 points, 79 points that win the league.
They were only one point clear off Arsenal.
We don't say that.
We don't say, you know, look, you know, that was a great season and primarily because they only wanted with X amount of points.
We say that was the greatest year in domestic from a domestic club, so that's I get why people might say on the outside Well, you know they not sacrifice the F A Cup, but he still didn't play strongest team the F A Cup at Stamford Bridge.
You know.
I mean, they gave a good go, but there wasn't strongest team.
Obviously, they were out of the car about Corp So it's That's the thing people look at it ba from.
That's from the outside.
They'll say, Well, your Caesars and going on board you've got to understand that we're in the Premier League was the be all and end all political.
It's what you're gonna talk with brought in for is what manages for the last three decades have been brought in for to win this Premier League and you do it because 30 years for a club of Liverpool's stature in the European statue is any pockets.
It's one of the great anomalies, really in the English game that it's taken.
It's been 30 years.
They've never won the Premier League.
The last time they won the title, it wasn't even the Premier League.
You know Andi, so this has been one of one of the great quest and they have come fairly close to it.
Brendan Rodgers came close to it, rougher.
Benitez comes close to it.
But this time you know they're gonna cross the line with the Rose between their teeth.
Really, it's an amazing, amazing performance.
I think says a generational thing, because if you're under the age of 30 all you've known his liberal side that yet come place occasionally on permanent champions.
For those of us who remember that sort of those great livable sides that will win league, and you felt like that would go on forever and to see them fall away.
And the relative decline of them is like this scale of this for I'm not awfully for young fantasy books.
Well, but for fans and for people live, Live, live, live.
See that?
And it's only a couple of years.
18 months ago, we were talking about that day that Jamie Carrico was right.
It is telegraph columns that he possibly in his lifetime.
He wouldn't see wouldn't leak because City looked so dominant in Liverpool.
Looked a long way behind sort of two years ago.
Didn't you thought Well, maybe that so.
The fact that it's happened in fact was going to happen.
I wasn't convinced what?
Maybe who knows what I'm intending?
So I certainly you didn't see Liverpool.
You think this could have gone on for 35 years, 40 years or something?
and on the scale of the achievement is gonna be one of the huge stories in English football history.
How much faces they could still turn over.
Let's go on Wednesday and defend the European crap again that you wouldn't put that past.
You just say what a season that would be too many.
No, that 30.
But if the the point as Paul Mates there be Triple Crown winners won't leave if they do this and it's It's the scale of We are talking about one of the great teams and you put them up there because they've won the Champions League and now they're gonna win the league.
And that's great debate.
Atlantic City, isn't it?
Obviously, they want to trample early this season that that would change that.
But there is a domestic sort of wall about Manchester City's achievements.
Brilliant.
There they are, there, no in that sphere where you've actually won a Champions League as well, and that's where you make sure the great teams like they're not human forests on the live ports of the past.
It because it's motive, isn't it?
That's why we follow.
But we want that emotional attachments because it's a similar thing, and you couldn't skew these stats however you like.
But a few months ago, it's almost seller.
Not maybe having the greatest season and with your test a nerve bit, that great picture of of him and we've got the 70 goals 100 Premier League appearances is thinking still inform most?
That's right.
That will do once it.
Yeah, that would've been inconsistent form from the moment he joined people.
Simple is that you know you've reached 20 gold by December of his fair season, 20 by January, the second season 20 by March.
Office almost third season on.
That's no sign of deterioration.
Now, you know it's a bit longer each time.
Andi, I would've thought again, and I haven't got them toe hand.
But I would have thought seven or eight assists this season.
I would have already seems money.
They come up with these assists as well.
On its it's his Andi goes for the rest of the forward line.
It's also their their durability.
Don't underestimate way.
Speak a lot of this stage of the season about teams coping.
I'm sure we're going to other clubs with injuries to key players, you know, It's very Harry King despairs, for example, just one example of that on dhe.
Their durability.
Those three, including salad.
I think his room is remarkable.
They are down again.
They do so for the odd knock.
You know, Money's missing level missed some game time at some stage.
But, you know, I was there to be able to actually, as a manager said, Well, you know what?
I've got those three, you know, pretty much week in week out on to produce the combined, um, combined assists and goals they dio is fantastic.
And I think people say we slightly quieter these days.
Well, I think they're spectacular aspects gone out of his games like he doesn't have to make these 40 yard runs anymore.
When he first hit his peak, he was playing a kind of messy ask type of game where he's running 30 yards with a ball on beating three people and you know, on Dhe slicing it past the goalkeeping now because the whole team's performance had come up a level.
I don't think he has to do that so much anymore.
He can just rely on his natural finishing ability on be more of a kind of a clinical goal scorer.
He doesn't have to carry the team in the way that he did when Liverpool are arriving at the point where they are now, because but basically everybody in that team contributes hugely.
He's also only quieter by comparison to Messi.
Run out, isn't it?
I mean, who have made four girls season like a Norman trick thing, which it isn't, you know.
And he had that phenomenal season and even at the time clock was saying that he's not in school.
40 hopes every single Caesar and school 30 that that's extraordinary.
So we've been spoiled in this generation.
We also desperately looking for the next in the next one.
But I think they have skewed the bay in that sense because they just were Arcee phenomenal.
They're involved in 29 goals in all competitions.
This isn't nine assists in all of them.
If you are talking about injuries, though you were both the game yesterday.
You got your program looked at front and there's Alison right in the front of the program.
Missing him changes, maybe tweaks.
Henderson Gomez being out to how's that effected the balance?
Strange because Alison was actually at Stamford Bridge on Tuesday, even though he wasn't playing was on the bench.
Was that stuff a bit tense that he's got a knock?
If you have that, not before 100.
They're exactly the way went hip, injured here, just like you said it offers that he they were going to put me on the bench, thought It's a mildly weird style for breathing thing.
Then they said, Well, let's not take a risk And then they had it scanned the next day and it turned out to be more serious, like it might be a week or so.
So that was it.
That's what they were gonna risk it.
But it's not.
It's a huge blow, isn't it?
Um, particular coming up to the Champions League game on, bearing in mind.
What happened it Chelsea with it without something that one from William Ian.
But haven't Adrianne letting that one from William in?
I haven't said that, you know, when he deputized for Alison early in the season, I don't think it particularly sort of your denning spectacularly rolled.
You know what your brother Alison in, But I think what I think actually what might be The biggest setback from that is the relationship between the defense and the goalkeeper to me, a Chelsea on Tuesday, The defense look quite vulnerable, but I just sort of I got the impression they were dropping back.
They went to shore of Adrianna position.
It's only naturally become used to the way your goalkeeper operates.
You know how far outside the box is gonna come, how he's going to clean up, clear up outside exactly what his movements, where he's gonna distribute it on.
Do you have faith in him on?
Do you know when you've got keeping that you're not play with all the time?
I just think it's exam for that relationship to develop.
I also think that the reason why mention of city and live with us so far ahead off the rest of permitting and 17 point totals are but reality There are off see these other two brilliant teams of art?
I said this era is Alison and Edison on, but what they brought to go keep it.
They It's a distribution for the back.
It's obviously they're great shot savers as well, But the distribution in the back is on on the level beyond what the rest of primary goal keepers are operating on DDE.
That that makes the whole team ticks of that.
That's a big problem when you lose him saying for Bravo and and managed to City and the same for Adrianna and livable.
You said I'm gonna out you now We'll talk in the Green Room before about actually also that high line that they've been playing and how they worked v a r out.
Yeah, and about whether that's just interested with that stat live court sides offside more than any a lot more than any other side.
And I think they looked at ball.
You know, you look how I was gonna be implemented and my great beef with virus that is taking us back toe 1990 when offside was leveled.
Basically, now is more or less level because you can scrutinize in such detail that it's very hard to sort of it be Onside and Martin on site.
And I think realized offside traps in 19 eighties were really easy to play, and we've got a lot of football because that not suggesting liberal, a dollar just said in that plane of a highlights.
I think they know that they can get.
They can catch people outside easy, and they've got the protection of all to catch someone offside, even if if the referee misses, I think they're telling me to go to a break.
But you just said, Look for adults, so go for it.
I'm getting as bad as them honor.
We will talk.
I'm sure no doubt more about live for in the coming weeks.
When will it be done?
That's the big question now, coming up, though, in parts Who will be discussing Tottenham and, in particular, how you get the best from a player taking a late breakfast with Andy Pool and Rob Rob, we discovered in the break that someone already bean for a double cooked breakfast this morning without us.
Never mind that, I said.
It's a little bit off putting sitting here.
Can you pull mainly because there's a big picture of jazzy Marino just behind your head.
He's not the focus on the early editions of the papers.
Talk about Ollie rescuing a point for Marina in the 11 draw with Burnley.
So it's all about the penalty for early there, But the quotes that came out afterwards from Marino around in the belly and the midfield in particular.
Let me know what you think is calling a mouse or not in the first half, he says.
We didn't have a midfield.
Of course, I'm not speaking of Skip Skip because he's a kid.
He's 19 years, played two hours in the last few days.
I don't criticize him.
It's all there.
Everything goes on to say, But I'm not going to run away.
And I have to say he meaning and dumb Bell has had enough time to come to a different level.
No, the Premier League is difficult.
Some players take a long time to adapt to a different league.
He goes on sale to pay with great talents.
He has to know he has to do much better.
Can't keep giving him opportunities to pay because the team is much more importance.
Well, most managers would recall from that, and I remember Gary Lineker was wincing about on much the day last night.
You know, this is this code.
You could say that to him in the dressing room.
You wouldn't say that in front of a camera to pick out an individual and sort of, you know, blame him, demonize him for a bad first half.
So it's an unusual tactic.
It's for it's worth of unfamiliar one, because he does it a lot.
Remember I'm doing at Manchester United with, say, Mick.
Italian, for example, just disappeared off the face of the earth, and Marino kept making these kind of loaded comments about him.
This is he puts these players through a kind of boot camp.
Doesn't need a psychological boot camp if he thinks they're not up to speed in the Premier League.
It always seems to be a big price tag involved, as if he is, if he the more you cost them, always going to go after you.
When I watched the analysis of that game last night, I don't think in Dumbo was any worse than any other top of midfielder in that first half, so I'm not quite sure why he picked him out.
Presumably it's cumulative, and he feels that he's not contributing enough in general, and he's not training one in there for whatever it is.
But I think Thio to expose a player like that.
I don't I don't see that That's likely to help him and Essie's and Marino has decided that the way to get him going is to embarrass him, really sort of humiliate him, really in front of the cameras.
Then how is that possibly gonna help the player Is any different from the party?
No quotes saying that you take a couple of years for us to see the best friend and gone belly.
I think it is different.
Recall exactly what pocket Gina is said.
But that was very early days, and and I think it's self evident that for a lot of players, not money players hit the Breanna.
Fernandez has hit the family and hit the ground running.
But that's quite rare, isn't it?
Does take time to get used to the physicality to the pace of the game.
So in one sense, is nothing wrong with what Marina certain.
It's quite sensible, announced, stapled.
We do need more from him and he doesn't need to adapt quicker.
He's, he's he's a big transfer fee, but it's it's the question.
Do it in public and I was intrigue last week spoke to new no wolves who's obviously Jay Z's Porter J, but he played under J's at Porto and now is the manager.
And he was said, how he wants to bring a club of no conflict a tour and he doesn't like the sort of arguments and calling people out was quite hippy ish, sort of approach to it.
And we said to him, Wilder's some managers, you might managed by conflict as well.
I'm not that guy.
And I think it was one in particular that, you know that is J starlets, that he wants to manage my conflict and talk to new no mess.
It brings home the point that lots of people who are making this up what how does that work with this generation?
Does that still work?
Obviously, it was when we were growing up.
It's probably much more.
The thing and the 10 years ago, maybe you could get away with it are just not sure that it's It's the way to get the best out of this particular generation of young players.
But the proof will be in how he was spotted Tonto exactly on if he doesn't respond in the right way.
If you didn't respond and then Josie's got a point, I think we've got to be.
There was a slight irony when we when we just discuss this type of thin because when we ask a question, we want an honest answer.
Jealous?
All sat round the table.
Now we want to understand from manager.
Yeah, when he gives an honest answer like this, we can say our That's terrible.
You should be doing this to his player.
Well, you know, actually, that's what we wanted to do.
Yeah, that's that's on a basic level.
E we cancer on sale this month, yet speaks to Honestly, I shouldn't.
He's thrown his player under a bus.
Well, our abilities, that's what That's what makes good copy for us.
What makes good talking points is where Marina does something like this on Don't take the guy's points is that in this day and age, it seems to be not the thing to do.
It's not something that you think Lockwood did.
It's not something there.
Well, I mean, Pep Guardiola thing, you just did it.
I did it.
I mean, you wouldn't have sex, for example.
That was anathema to him.
No account a player like that and individualize it.
I mean, if it stopped it, saying the midfield was no good in the stuff I needed to make a change.
Then you could have differed from that London belly was not very good and took him off.
But then to hone in on him as an individual and say that this guy's not performing, this guy let me down.
You know, that's that's where it escalates.
I think you plant in the idea of every pundit and every fund.
This idea that undone belly is a problem.
But well, yes, I mean, I see I see where you're coming from with that.
But then I remember every this season Dean Henderson made made a terrible mistake.
Everyone's are what a shame.
You know, Chris Waddle came on television, said it was unforgivable.
It was a terrible mistake.
You shouldn't be definite.
Ow!
My weird, But that's what he said there.
What's he supposed to say?
And how is Dean?
Anderson responded.
He's probably been the best keeper in the league since that mistake.
So, you know, I just think we can't be, too, you know, the that is big money player.
I'm sure he's not that sensitive a soul that when Josie says well, Actually, it could be doing a bit better in public that he shouldn't think that isn't covered in private, because I think those criticism, that's what you should be addressed at him and said he is a big money signing.
He's got a con.
It might take him a season's properly, get his sort of where he is an English football.
But you can't be put in the forms he's putting in now, and that's what he cannot hide from that criticism.
But is where you do that criticism and obviously for us, it's great.
He doesn't public and yet do it in public.
Great, we've got something to talk about.
But now we're not talking about what's good copy for us.
We're talking about analyzing the management star and in the management style is not gonna work for him now.
If it does work and end, Timberlake goes, Well, I'm gonna show you and he comes back Well, fair enough it It still works.
But the evidence of Josie's last year clubs is that it's not working massively well for him, didn't seem to work for when he called out Luke Shore, and it didn't seem to work.
You know when he's called out other players, so that I think that's the issue.
At the heart of it is it still worked for Josie, who is one of the great managers.
So because this has always divides people, you know, he's one of the great challenges.
He's an iconic manager.
He's changed the games in many ways.
So that a ll that is said, The question is now in these last few years is he is his management style still getting best out of people.
However, I still go back to the second place against got from mention 60 years ago, probably his greatest achievement as he said that getting that man United team to chase down a phenomenal sitting was good so that this pros and corns till the job is a debate.
But that that issue for me, is it still working for him again?
What do you expect?
Sometimes they're manages to do when we can all go on online, and we can all watch short videos of double a player way.
You'll see that it doesn't put in the type of of effort that it should be.
It should be a given at a probably cooperating professional club.
So you know when Josie is talking about it, do we really expect him to sugar coat the whole thing?
Or just to say No, I'm not talking about that Would all do well, we're all fine, lads.
Don't worry.
It's great when we can see for our own eyes.
You know, when funds could see on friends, then 10 round surely and say Why you trying to pull a pullover eyes?
We can see that he's not delivering on what we expected Our way, we expect, if well, are sat there and saying it.
You look pretty daft.
Is Amanda if you're not reflecting that again, I do understand the idea of Mann management, and I don't understand the idea that players all the plays in the squad will be looking at that and think, Well, I'll be next.
Basically, that is, I guess what you're talking about is the unwritten code.
You don't go out there and criticizing public on Dhe.
We'll part the problem when you wonder whether you just wonder what the game is.
So he's an arch pragmatists, and he didn't really do anything in this.
There's a there's a marginal gain involved.
So So when he says that about an individual player, plants the idea and everybody's head.
As I said that there's a problem with this guy because he's not contributing, what is what is the game?
The only possible gain can be that the player responds.
You said Robin, and Starts starts putting a bigger shift in.
If that doesn't happen, he's alienated.
The player is he's created a kind of on atmosphere around the squad.
Any I just think that the atmosphere is Sophie brought All these, though, is that if you do that in public, then it becomes it becomes a perception about that player and it just gives you a problem on.
A broader issue is in which Daniel Levy would be concerned about is the devalues the player?
54 minutes?
You know, it's a record signing, absolutely.
But now, if he's not, he's not going to play him.
If he if he clearly thinks he's not up to it, then talk will try and get rid.
I assume as long as Josie's in charge of selling to permanent club, if you say he's not up to speed in Pimlico, you're looking todo okay, we're miles away from that Well, for at least for the moment, I guess that the counter argument to is then if he does talk about the midfield, doesn't mention him, then does it will get weighted down on Skip.
So yeah, but he got the midfield.
I mean, it's one thing, okay?
They've got injury issues, but he did not escape.
Didn't he say, You know, if he wasn't, you didn't think he's up to it and then you know, why did you pick him moving onto the game itself, then with Burnley and Spurs getting that that draw out of them?
Is that the sort of game that's unfair on Burnley then, isn't it?
Spurs would expect to go and get three points from.
So is their right for sports fans have this kind of this'll raises.
That seems to be a white hot line at the moment.
Well, I think that when Pa Tino left, I think the Spurs were at the end of a cycle.
I think that team had reached a natural end and that's probably why he left.
So the the expectation was that Marino would come in and sort of, you know, energize it on dhe kind of somehow finagle and back into the top four and on all that, although structural problems will be for gotten.
But I don't think I don't think it's been able to do that precisely because the problems run much deeper than the project.
Tina's management.
So I think they've got a lot of work to do and I think he's trying to find a formula and trying to apply all his managerial now soon experience to make Spurs look better than they are.
He changed them in the sense that they're less positive.
I think they're more cautious on a lot of people are kind of resistant to that.
Certainly top and fans, but I can actually understand what he's doing is trying to find a group of players who will, who will play a more pragmatic style of play to get them into a a position of solidity in the table, where they can then think again about recruitment.
There's the tables key right, so we got Chelsea Everton to watch that square, Premier Li soft earning so that's a big game for the race, for your evidence.
Suddenly in in that race to Spurs, Chelsea Everton, who comes out the tumble of the Jay Z bet works.
If they made the top four, maybe top five this season, obviously they will if they well in the balance, isn't it me and I totally I wouldn't blame him for the star he's adopted at the moment.
I can't know Josie haters will jump on it.
But if you leave cane and so on and then it's fair enough to say we're gonna have to be more pragmatic.
We're gonna have to play a slightly different way.
And it seems to me they bought in Josie because they that was a bet that he might get in the top four until I mean, now, maybe it's not fine.
And if that comes off, then it's work.
But if it doesn't come off, Jason Marina is not a natural Europa League manager.
You know that That seems like a difficult fit for that club to be in the Europa League, who chose a marina's manager.
Lee can't see it lost that wrong and, well, well, they do it.
I mean that the ballot it's it's so finely balanced when you throw in the fact that it might be 50 places.
Well, there's all sorts of permutations for Sheffield United for ever.
Turn for the teams that maybe wouldn't ever start a season thought.
We're going for a Champions League qualifications.
Will will be.
We'll be looking at it now.
I'm thinking we couldn't hit that fit sport.
You're so pretty in your open We would have been the last sort of way, just ironically, just putting out I would be.
But he wasn't very happy in that.
No, not at all.
I would be.
I would be more concerned if I was a top fund, Not with the comments he's made about his own player last night.
But Brother commence before the game about this suggestion before the game.
That he was going to say to the board, You know, is barely more important or Leipzig more important, but really, it's just that's just purely him, saying purely him being unnecessarily downbeat about things, making big the excuses ahead of that barely game.
And I think that negative mindset.
I like Joe's Miro a lot, but I just think the negativity in terms of on the field trying to defend, sit back on a one goal lead that sort of thing that's that's in the past tense now, more modern management.
They were not doing.
The club's off doing a quality or does not do.
Now he hasn't got the resources they've got, but even so, the just the knee jerk instinctive reaction to basically try and hold what you have isn't the way forward anymore.
But I get enough spares at home.
So let's let's briefly talk about Chelsea Everton then because no one's going with the Angelotti Darby way.
Whatever you think about his his treatment.
Otherwise with Chelsea, the team that he takes in to this game very different from the team he inherited ever Italy's is structured them well on a lotta Everton.
Yeah, you would expect that.
I mean, it was a really a luxury access acquisition for Everton wasn't again Color angelotti on DDE.
The one of the problems they had was that they had good or promising players who weren't performing on Dhe.
There wasn't a shape or a structure to the team to enable them to perform.
He's created an environment where those players were able to, you know, show what they are and what they have.
It's taken them you know, up the table.
The results to improve performance has improved.
Everton finds a happier s O.
It was It was It was a good move.
I doubted whether it would last very long.
Personally, I just couldn't see him settling.
There really might feel that he was there to do a job.
You know, uh, you know, top of his income for a while.
But it actually is going really well and, you know, good luck to them.
I think it's It's I'm with Paul.
It was at the time.
You know, when it was first suggested, you thought, Well, why why would you go there?
I mean, I think he really has bought into the machinery plan or grand idea how he'll be able to do that in terms of financial fair play.
I'm not entirely sure.
Boat.
I think Carlos bought into that on.
I think he is looking long term, I think, he would see, is a massive achievement.
If you get evident in the champions, it won't be next season.
They won't finish some for this season or top five, maybe, depending what happens to city blasting next season or the season after they will.
I mean, this is shown by you Good young players commit themselves to the club to the future.
Makes it hard based on the liver will be soon.
They've got a good nucleus of young players they've got, I think, exciting players that Charlison will be people left through the week when he was linked with a foreign club for card members of Barcelona.
Real Madrid, for our card number is 600 million.
I think this is the face I remember driving home.
Listen to radio people after that.
Well, you know, that's what he will be very surely, if not now, that type bracket off player.
So I think it's immensely promises and everything you hear from behind the scenes is that you might expect Ancelotti's come in with his CVI, his pedigree, his, you know, to be slightly, maybe aloof or, you know, because he's got very looked to prove.
But apparently that it couldn't be further from the truth of it is absolutely the opposite, and they bought into him the dynamic with Duncan Ferguson seems an odd one, but that seems to work on Dhe.
It's just great to have those positive times around and what will be interesting is how machinery now takes it on from here.
Stuffy also will be the investments in the new stadium, which might be probably some way down the line three or four years.
But I think it's really, really exciting.
Times are evident, and I think what would be great is if the Angelotti does have a while there.
You know, Listen, you have to stay long, overlong places recently.
But, you know, I think evident on Everson Funds and the evident management are trying to sell him for five year plan.
So you think it's so you think he's changed because, I mean, he's always been a front end manager says he's never been a club restructure.
He's, you know, he's a stage two or three years as a great, just the front of the operation.
So why's he bought into Everton?
I assume he's been sold on what machinery and muscle brands have told him.
Maybe, you know, it might sound a little bit romantic.
Maybe he in the same way.
I think that everything about clock.
When Clark took over in Liverpool, it appealed to him, you know, I mean, he could have waited for United, Real Madrid, Barcelona by immunity.
What appealed someone was the challenge.
I'm sure there's a listen this morning as well.
On a lesson.
Let's not present there.
Angelotti is now not one of the most well remunerated managers, and probably because he is clearly so.
That's clearly elements.
But the challenge the clock took home was, too.
Was that chance.
Whoever said no little, it's obviously different situations.
Whoever 10 Liverpool back.
Whoever rediscovered the old liver pill, whoever took little back to title within days after that gun on was always going to be a basically a legend on Dhe.
There's a field, the club, the feel of the area and that all appeals o'clock.
Now I'm not saying trust is the same, but maybe he was saw this challenge off Listen evident that the guy whose eggs evident back to the days boxes were near the great days of the mid eighties, except he will be here.
I maybe he's bought into that, and he's already been sent.
So it's called the Goodison Mood.
You know, kind of this kind of negative kind of shopping Bill Strand and stuff way all sort of, you know, Italian food it in South Texas somewhere, but he doesn't really good every time.
I guess you always get out and make sure that scene out in about 10 you know, What would you say?
You have to write that because I was let me talk about the Manchester Darby, the first Manchester, Darby and forever that we've not spent four hours coming up in Part three.
We will be doing just that.
Previewing the self means ranch, the Darby at Old Trafford.
Who is it a big gain for at Sunday's up to get in touch with us on social media?
And he Dunn's here has been telling stories also with us.
Poor Hayward and Rob Draper.
The papers a bit split this morning off.
See, understandably got the reaction to yesterday said no title fever.
You sure your organs to spit on the live for chat and then the Manchester Darby as well.
Ali gets a pep talk.
Guardiola Biggs up Darby arrival.
So Pep Guardiola talking about the merits of a lead on a social special, one on special gun.
That's how the star splits it again.
Those two games 4 30 so you'll be able to watch that game on Sky Premier League, Manchester United Man City and then Ali Ali Ali is about Peppe singing socials, praises in the mirror very much the reflection across all of them.
Then there's an in depth piece with Graeme Souness talking about the impact of one player in particular among sure.
Then Bruno Fernandez.
Is this suddenly become the the game that if he hasn't already made his mark pull that he makes his mark.
Manchester.
Yeah, brunette.
Fernando's is being talked about every dinner party in the land.
He's the most fashionable topic of conversation in the country.
I think the moment while a couple of others as well.
But it's amazing.
You know, what Manchester United needed to do was sign good midfield players.
That was obvious 3 to 3 years ago to sign a succession of duds.
Mock Tommy has progressed.
Park has been injured, but Bruno Fernandez is exactly what they needed.
He's a classic, um, driving, dominating, controlling, highly accomplished central midfield player.
And obviously the effect he's had is to is to sort of invigorate inspired the players around him.
Give Manchester United's play greater strength and diamond dynamism, and the results obviously speak for themselves.
I mean, they've risen without trace, really much united there, three points behind Chelsea.
They, you know, they could get into the Champions League on.
It's got the potential to be rumor, remarkable turnaround and his Rob said during the break.
Suddenly they're making.
They're making better signings, you know, they made they made bad signings for five years, mostly bad signings and the players they bought, stagnated or even regressed there.
But now they're starting to by people who are who are who are going there to develop their careers on DDE.
Andi, you know, in another couple of years, I think I think it was it that said the other day was Roy Keane said.
It's gonna take a couple of years and it will.
It will.
There's a lot of work to be done cleaning out this scored in rebuilding this squad, but the signs at the moment of vaguely promising they I can't believe they actually didn't get the signing Don't on January the first.
I mean, that's one thing about United is that sometimes it does take a little bit longer than he should have been through the door.
Then I again.
I saw him actually a quite bit of him recently on a sort of mom.
There's a a Darby County when his best game there of Social said as much brought what was interesting is the way already within just over half a dozen games, you can see how demanding is on.
Social came out with a great quote after that game to say the Fernandez doesn't think 99% is good enough, you know, and again it sounds with sound bitey and a bit like that.
That should be a given anyway.
But you watch him play, and he's now not afraid from moment one, too, to basic half ago.
It is.
Fellow midfielders is its fellow teammates.
He's now encouraged him.
He's talkative, and I know we sometimes blithely say, Well, you need Leaders were unites.
Two.
Now got the guy leading defense in high McGuire, and they've grown Liederman Field.
He'll be more of a leader.
Well, he showed himself to be more of a leader than poor papa in a very brief short space of time.
It's clearly very good players.
Well, always looking to get forward, t looking to be a gold threat as much as anything else.
Good from dead ball situations.
He looks a fantastic signing.
And as I say, I just get the impression there.
His character fits the bill as well.
You know, Andi, I think now if you're signing players like that, McGuire's kind, they're good, you know?
Strong.
Um, you know, well, basically, take no lack of effort from his colleagues.
Fernandez.
The same I think it is.
It is promising.
I mean, today will be a huge test for them.
I'm with Paul.
I think we have to buy in.
Well, we don't have to put the more social, and Edward would tell us this is a long term thing along.
Same recruitment on a long term vision.
We're not gonna be where we want to be until 18 months.
Time to use them.
I think of the moments when results go for you go with it just to correct myself.
It was Wayne Rooney, of course.
You said it would take two years, and I think I think he's right.
But suddenly the pace is a pace is increasing.
And if they get into the top four, imagine how good they'll feel over the summer imagine how confident they feel about you know this re bend salesgirl will keep his job.
Of course, that's definitely going for United.
Washington City is really insane watching the city of Real Madrid because they look back Thio like themselves and their foot being off the gas.
It feels like I think it was on Bernardo who made t