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  • Welcome back to the debate on Sky Sports news with Julian.

  • Let Scott and John Hartson before the break.

  • We listen to Julian and his career, possibly what he's best known for, although that was not best known for, but often gets asked about off the pitch.

  • What about you, Joe?

  • Well, apart from the obvious, you know the Albert Bridge incident, which everybody alludes back to.

  • Still, it was 23 years ago.

  • I get off, I get asked what happened.

  • Can you explain to our younger viewers what happened?

  • Yeah, What happened was I It was trained in normal training session in the morning at at West Ham West Times training groomed Chadwell Heath just there.

  • And the ball was rolled into me on dumb berkowitz, so inept in on a tackle him tackle him from behind.

  • It wasn't the best tackle in the world, and I started going to lift him up.

  • He sort of threw a punch which caught me so hip high.

  • And then as you see the pictures, I lashed out and I kicked him in the face.

  • Yeah, but there was a massive regret naming Jeff.

  • I've gotta be honest, because although I was I was very aggressive.

  • 21 was very boy stress, you know, at that time, like that seven.

  • Sort of sending offs up until I was 26.

  • A couple of full Arsenal couple for Wimbledon.

  • West Ham already got sent off the one time in over 200 games of Celtic.

  • So as I got older, I got a bit ways.

  • Er I learned to control my discipline.

  • Side of the game.

  • Martin O'Neill was a stickler for discipline, like Brian Clough.

  • Was he hated by discipline.

  • You no good to him, not playing.

  • You know you can't win with 10 men.

  • You got two of 11 men, especially in the bigger games up there.

  • You know, the Darby City or from games.

  • So it was a who's regret of mine.

  • I shouldn't have reacted the way that I did on it was the wrong reaction.

  • I brought a lot of shame on my family on I always felt that that always went before me, where people spoke about John Hartson, for instance.

  • Yeah, John, this is Centerforward gets older, the ball, you know?

  • All right in the air, Good finisher, blah, blah, blah good character.

  • And then they go.

  • Oh, what about that?

  • You don't see that incident?

  • I always felt I had to get over that.

  • Although from West time I broke a record at Wimbledon.

  • I went to Celtic for six million.

  • Some big managers, you know, you take What would you say was the highlight of your career?

  • The highlight of my career was office, yet played in two European finals.

  • What about 2020?

  • Could've Maldini.

  • But I like, you know, Should you get on.

  • We got beat, you know, we do nail nil at Highbury.

  • Poor Merson's first came back from being in the prairie.

  • Massive crowd support from us and we went over there and I was coming in.

  • George Graham, obviously it at the time.

  • But that's my time at Celtic.

  • Was magical.

  • You know, I won three titles in five years, played in a fabulous team.

  • Martin O'Neill was fantastic to me.

  • Believed in me after I failed for medicals with my knee on Dhe.

  • Obviously there, Martin basically said, Look, I believe you're going to be strong enough for you.

  • Get me gold being there.

  • A failing medical within a certain it was very special club for me you have to be felt was looking medical wise.

  • My plane history went ahead of me work at scans go.

  • I wouldn't have passed any medical or went and bought the fact that I played Hi, buddy with games and pretty much more games than anyone in the squad.

  • Silver's going to kind of went ahead of me in regards to me passing medicals here.

  • Players have them issues.

  • All the times that day in terms of its blast only pass medicals on scans be high volume of players not passing on both Think is well, Jules Medicals.

  • I was going to seven million 6.5 million 20 years ago.

  • 100 million today.

  • So if I'm going for 300 grand through a lot of money, you know it will play that many games.

  • But a fella medical, It spurs for 6.5 million on at that particular time.

  • It was George Graham on Sugar.

  • David Pleat was chief executive on.

  • I would have gone our Snow West Ham spurs in that particular order.

  • You forget not that particular time, you know, but no, As I said, it's because of the levels off money and break in transfer records.

  • And I believe that went against me as well.

  • What?

  • He obviously wore certain colors with pride.

  • I don't mean the actual teams, you know, you talk about you'd love to play for Manchester United with the service you would have got.

  • You would have loved to have played for the invincibles with Arsenal to have gone on the If it was a kid based on designer kit that you could warm.

  • What would you think it would have been?

  • Liverpool chrome paints the night.

  • The yellow Yeah, yellow red stripe on the one I hate It was them Red Capital Tate.

  • Well, shoots by while I spend about 40 minutes on my own in the toilet.

  • Just trying to stretch.

  • It was sore.

  • Tate was a $1,000,000 on Bella's and Gigi and all the other players, but but myself, I stretch it a little bit before I got it on.

  • You know, you could actually make any difference to the top.

  • Yeah, a little bit.

  • Yeah, well, I thought it did.

  • Anyway, you go.

  • What would you go for?

  • Growing up the villa shirt with the mullahs sponsor?

  • That was kind of my first shirt.

  • That I was able to kind of, uh, purchase.

  • But Weitz Madrid kit that's always been iconic, being a glad to cope with being be amazing, so kind of wear that kid.

  • So she went ahead.

  • Lots of what fee goes it done now the original Ronaldo and David Beckham there would have been.

  • There are just some kids are just iconic, aren't they?

  • Could member?

  • I played with Slavin Village for, I think, about 18 months at West Ham.

  • I think it was a time where slumber went away to the world.

  • Couple that European championships with Croatia on.

  • I watched him my watch live on holiday and that red attacked the square.

  • So red and white check the Croatia kit.

  • I always felt was magnificent as well.

  • What the Brazil kit as well, isn't it?

  • Yeah, I think Axl's birthday today.

  • The family of their club tell me that's not a chronic kit.

  • Yeah, there's there's a lot of them, to be fair, but yes, some of them just stick up more than ever.

  • Okay, let's wrap things up.

  • It's the Premier League.

  • They are meeting tomorrow to discuss the situation.

  • A lot of their discussions will be caveat it by depending on quite rightly.

  • And of course, the situation in the country as well.

  • Because we don't know where we're headed With that, what would you hope would come out off the Premier Li tomorrow?

  • Indeed.

  • I expecting anything potentially given that we we don't know times girl, No return.

  • What should we expect if anything first of form or something?

  • What?

  • What is Parliament?

  • Is that the crueler virus?

  • This epidemic clears.

  • The case is lower and it clears.

  • People tell me it was clear as quick as it came.

  • I don't know what to believe.

  • I don't know your things.

  • So that's best part about that.

  • Fans, players, staff.

  • Everything is ready to go.

  • I think everybody wants to see football, everyone to get back to sport Onda.

  • But for me, I would like to see the season played out.

  • If that was the case, I think with Nor you Rosa's.

  • Well, that gives us a little bit of extra time.

  • Um I want to see these play to a finish.

  • I want to see the season even if we have to go on a few more months.

  • June, July, August.

  • But first of four more that's the thing.

  • I think that the format needs to be cited.

  • It needs to finish the weight started.

  • I don't think any change in the format of how the league started should be debatable.

  • But can that be decided?

  • John, Because we don't know.

  • It's a possibility we might not see any football played again.

  • Let's keep this in context.

  • The football.

  • Any sport is secondary to the situation in the country.

  • Could be nothing.

  • The first?

  • Well, yeah, and God forbid, that is the case.

  • Schools are closed.

  • I see that is the case.

  • The former could still be decided to come out of that meeting tomorrow.

  • It could be the former that's decided on for the effort, while the Premier Li, to suggest that it's what the 30th of June, they want the games finish up.

  • What does that look like when there's the league has to start in order for it to finish on the foot?

  • If what's the period of time that needs to be, how many games things be paid per week?

  • This the former off the whole into the season can be decided in regards to when it starts.

  • I think feels I think when we do get going again, let's hope that the court of Iris everybody safe these problems.

  • I keep mentioning when we do get going again.

  • I'm not really concerned about how far back it cause we still after playing out here, we still have to play.

  • Let's think of this season.

  • Don't want so much about next.

  • Other things have to be put in place, But let's get this season after the way teams have worked so hard.

  • Look at Liverpool, for instance.

  • 25 points clear.

  • They've been the best team by a mile.

  • It would be on absolute travesty if they want to get the primal.

  • If we get going again, let's not just say well, if you get going again, will not avoid the season would start afresh.

  • 2021.

  • A new Premier League?

  • No, for me, you have to finish what we started.

  • That that's what I'm.

  • That's what I hope.

  • Andi.

  • Tomorrow's meeting.

  • They give us that time.

  • Will it?

  • Will it be difficult with so many unknowns for them to show leadership for them, the leadership that everybody wants?

  • Yes, it's getting difficult.

  • No, not everyone is gonna be happy at tomorrow's meeting.

  • But again, there's decisions that can be made on dhe processes put in place to say, Well, when we do get back up and running, this is what it's gonna look like when there is no one knows.

  • And I don't think anyone expects him to say, Well, tomorrow it's gonna be this state and it's finalized because there's no positive outcome to that.

  • But in terms of what it's gonna look like, definitely that can be decided.

  • Okay, well, thank you both very much indeed, for your company for sharing your thoughts and also allowing us to go down memory lane as well.

Welcome back to the debate on Sky Sports news with Julian.

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