Name: New AMD CPUs are coming... should you upgrade?
Uploaded: 2020-03-19T16:05:11.000Z
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Tasty sense here in time to bring in one of those talking head videos where you could just feel free to go ahead and minimize this and kind of listen as you do your thing, Um, whatever I'm not worth looking at for the next 10 or 15 minutes, we're gonna talk about some new CPU is coming out from a M D, some highly anticipated stuff that we're finally getting all the details on where we get our hands on soon.

But today's topic is going to be based on the information that's been released today are the new thread Ripper and rise and skews worth waiting for?

Are they worth waiting for and who they're really kind of aimed towards when it comes to these particular processors.

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Okay, so we've got the 39 50 X coming from rising.

We have known that's been coming since E three.

In fact, we've known that's been coming since, like CEO, So we're nearly a year in the making on that CPU.

We've already got all the way up to the 3900 X, which is the 14 cores 12 course something that 12 Court 24th right?

Um, and we've all been waiting for the highly anticipated 16 core part from Risen.

Um, I don't know what's taken so long for them to build this Q.

But nonetheless, it was supposed to be out like end of October.

They pushed it to end of November, So November 25th is actually the launch date on that.

Now, what's nice about this is that uses the existing AM four socket.

So Am D promised that there was gonna be support for AM for I believe they said toe like 2020 Remember, aim for launch back in 2016.

So we're now four years into this socket, and they've kept their promise.

We've seen considerable improvements over that socket from the first gen rise end to where we are now with 39.

Now, the 1800 expert first lunch was an eight course 16 threat part.

So kudos to Andy for keeping that under control.

Meaning you could generationally upgrade if you wanted.

Um, for the most part, cause you could still run the first gen rise and motherboard with the newer sockets, you're gonna gonna get some of the features of, like, PC Express, Jen.

For I guess what happened to overtime is as rising became a Maura adopted part as market share became tipping back into a M D.

A lot of the board partner started putting more emphasis in quality builds on their motherboards versus where Andy used to be back with FX when rising, first launched because a lot of Mother board manufacturers you could take the same motherboard from Intel on Andy, Let's say and I'm just saying a Seuss tricks here for the sake of they make a MD and Intel products.

I'm not saying this was the case with for a suits, but let's just say hypothetically, you had a strict board for Intel on a strict board for Andy, there would be very tangible difference in quality between the 21 would be heavier than beef, your theorems and all that sort of stuff.

So although the name may have been shared, the quality allow the brand's wasn't really there, and I think a lot of people would agree with that.

But as rise and matured, that sort of change, where some of the most expensive and robust motherboards you can buy now are actually am the motherboards.

I'm not positive and 39 50 x but 3900 ex You could run all the way back on like some of the earlier X to 70 year X to 90 x 3 70 Yeah, it's confusing because Intel a name they were sort of fighting over who had the higher number.

But anyway, there's backwards compatibility there.

What we've seen with 3900 X is that the core clocks are somewhat disappointing.

Yes, it's on Sent seven centimeter with 14 centimeter I owed die on their stuff, but seven enemy or process allowed for great i p c improvement I p c over Intel.

The same clock speeds is in the Andes favor, but we're intel.

Still, obviously is reigning over Andy is clock speed, which makes up for that I p c differential or that Delta.

So 4.2 gigahertz was pretty much where, like 3900 ex capped out and so 1800 ex, you could get 233.9240 so you could see over the last 43 to 4 years we've gotten much more core.

It's dynamically expanded with core account but not so much clock speed.

And that's gonna probably be very much due to the architecture itself.

So I would have liked to have seen more clock speed out of 3800 X.

I don't expect there to be any more than the 42 were used to with 3900 and 39 50.

So where this would matter to you is if you're buying a PC or building a PC specifically for gaming, I would probably stick with whatever CPU probably already got.

If you're on rise in and not necessarily upgrade to a 39 50 X now, this is all hypothetical.

Still, I have not gotten hands on with this.

I'm just going based on the trend that we've already seen with A and B over the last three or four years, where we know games have a diminishing return with core count versus clock speed.

So what you can take 10 to find on some of the stuff is the lesser corps count.

Si, pues do tend to clock a little bit higher, but I think the highest we've seen so far is like 44 on standard water cooling air.

And then getting beyond that, as Steve with Gamera, Nexus has shown, is it takes a lot of exotic cooling and a lot of tweaking to get it anywhere near for 8 to 50 which you can easily get on an Intel part.

But this video is not so much about Intel vs AMG.

We need to get hands on before we can actually compare those.

In part it's, and the reason why we know that is the 39 60 X is the starting point of the new Gen three risin.

So the 39 60 X, which is 10 better than the 50 apparently is a considerable jumpin core counts.

You go from 16 cores on the mainstream CPR CPU desktop combo to 24 cores, 48 threads.

Now it says on here in the boost frequency and gigahertz up to 4.5, and then it says slash three pointing.

So what that means is you're going to probably get single core performance up to 4.5 gigahertz and 3.8 gigahertz term o clock across the entire corps count.

So that's why you usually see those two numbers there.

So what we're gonna be looking for here is seeing whether or not we can get those cores over clocked to, let's just say, 4.0, gigahertz across the board.

If so, that will make the 39 60 x a pretty significant CPU for people who need a multi threading workload.

People who are doing tons of projects on their workstations and or giving peces that need massive amounts.

Of course Now I wouldn't even go as far as to say this is a perfect gaming slash streaming PC cause streaming optimization in terms of Codex and stuff have gotten so good over the last say, five years, A lot of people were able to stream on much lower end hardware than this CPU is.

And trust me when I say the cost of the si pues mean, you better be doing something that actually is gonna leverage this amount of core count and thread count unless you're just enthusiasts.

At which point, a lot of times, pricing just simply doesn't matter to be true.

Diehard enthusiast wanting the top of the line without justification being needed Now the total cash on the 39 60 x is 140 megabytes cash.

But given the court count, that makes sense.

So one of the things that we're gonna be checking remember TDP and Power draw are not the same thing.

We will be kind of doing some over clock testing with this, seeing what power draw from the wall is what actual temperatures are.

A lot of people think that TTP is a just a straight up figure of this is how much power it draws, and that's they're two completely different numbers.

Soapy sea lanes, though this is where they are monsters.

You guys remember a few years back the way Intel sort of slices up its stack as it cuts cores and it cuts PC aliens.

And then what they'll do is they'll bring a newer generation of a C P with same core count.

But then what they'll do is they'll cut more PC lanes to force you up stack as they increase their product stacked with more cores.

That's what's sort of shown since the 5000 Siri's up Thio, where we are now with the 9000 series, and it's kind of unfortunate.

But Andy, on the other hand, is giving you 88 p.

I express four point Owens, 72 of which are available via PC devices.

It's kind of like you could put together one hell of a PC I'II storage based server with that and have gigabytes upon gigabytes of seconds per transfer speed 90 gigabits gigabytes per second, which would be absolutely insane.