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>>> THINK ABOUT THIS.
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>>> THINK ABOUT THIS. THERE'S ONE THING THAT TUCKER
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THERE'S ONE THING THAT TUCKER CARLSON, BERNIE ROSE AND WALL
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CARLSON, BERNIE ROSE AND WALL STREET CEOs HAVE IN COMMON.
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STREET CEOs HAVE IN COMMON. THIS ELECTION.
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THIS ELECTION. ACROSS THE ELECTION ONE THING.
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ACROSS THE ELECTION ONE THING. ANDREW YANG.
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ANDREW YANG. AS LIZ PLANK PUTS IT IN THE NEW
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AS LIZ PLANK PUTS IT IN THE NEW PIECE FOR NBC THINK, THIS IN
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PIECE FOR NBC THINK, THIS IN PART BECAUSE YANG'S MESSAGE IS
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PART BECAUSE YANG'S MESSAGE IS RESONATING WITH MEN WHO FEEL
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RESONATING WITH MEN WHO FEEL FORGOTTEN NOT ONLY BY THE
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FORGOTTEN NOT ONLY BY THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY BUT BY SOCIETY
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DEMOCRATIC PARTY BUT BY SOCIETY AT LARGE AND HIS MESSAGE IS
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AT LARGE AND HIS MESSAGE IS RESONATING WITH VOTERS IN IOWA.
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RESONATING WITH VOTERS IN IOWA. THIS PHOTO FROM LAST NIGHT
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THIS PHOTO FROM LAST NIGHT CAPTURES THE BIGGEST IOWA DEBATE
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CAPTURES THE BIGGEST IOWA DEBATE THAT TOOK PLACE IN DES MOINES.
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THAT TOOK PLACE IN DES MOINES. JOINING ME TO DISCUSS THE AUTHOR
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JOINING ME TO DISCUSS THE AUTHOR OF THE THINK PIECE AND THE VOTE
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OF THE THINK PIECE AND THE VOTE FOR "THE LOVE OF MEN" AND ROBERT
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FOR "THE LOVE OF MEN" AND ROBERT COSTA IS BACK WITH ME.
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COSTA IS BACK WITH ME. LIZ YOU SAID HE'S RESONATING
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LIZ YOU SAID HE'S RESONATING WITH GUYS WHO FEEL FORGOTTEN.
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WITH GUYS WHO FEEL FORGOTTEN. WHY?
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WHY? >> YEAH, I MEAN, THAT WAS ONE OF
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>> YEAH, I MEAN, THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS I WROTE THIS PIECE.
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THE REASONS I WROTE THIS PIECE. I STARTED TO SEE DIFFERENT MEN
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I STARTED TO SEE DIFFERENT MEN WITH DIFFERENT IDEOLOGIES.
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WITH DIFFERENT IDEOLOGIES. ALL HAVING THIS YANG, YOU KNOW,
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ALL HAVING THIS YANG, YOU KNOW, SHAPED HOLE IN THEIR HEART.
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SHAPED HOLE IN THEIR HEART. ONE THING THAT I THINK HE'S
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ONE THING THAT I THINK HE'S REALLY TAPPING INTO AND ONE
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REALLY TAPPING INTO AND ONE THING I TALK ABOUT IN THE BOOK
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THING I TALK ABOUT IN THE BOOK WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF A MAN
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WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF A MAN CRISIS.
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CRISIS. THERE'S A DEFINITIONAL PROVIDE.
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THERE'S A DEFINITIONAL PROVIDE. THEY WANT TO BE PROVIDERS BUT IN
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THEY WANT TO BE PROVIDERS BUT IN A LOT OF WAYS OUR ECONOMY AND
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A LOT OF WAYS OUR ECONOMY AND OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM MAKES IT
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OUR POLITICAL SYSTEM MAKES IT HARDER FOR THEM TO DEFINE
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HARDER FOR THEM TO DEFINE THEMSELVES IN THOSE WAYS AND
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THEMSELVES IN THOSE WAYS AND YANG IS OFTEN ABLE TO TAP INTO
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YANG IS OFTEN ABLE TO TAP INTO THE MALE PAIN.
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THE MALE PAIN. HE CONNECTS MALE PAIN SOME OF
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HE CONNECTS MALE PAIN SOME OF THE THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IN OUR
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THE THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS IN OUR SOCIETY.
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SOCIETY. HE CONNECTS IT TO RISING LEVELS
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HE CONNECTS IT TO RISING LEVELS OF SUICIDE, HE CONNECTS IT TO
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OF SUICIDE, HE CONNECTS IT TO THE RISE OF ONLINE RATE GROUPS
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THE RISE OF ONLINE RATE GROUPS AND TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.
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AND TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. WE SEE TRUMP ACTUALLY
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WE SEE TRUMP ACTUALLY WEAPONIZING MALE PAIN AND PROFIT
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WEAPONIZING MALE PAIN AND PROFIT OFF OF THAT.
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OFF OF THAT. BUT ANDREW YANG INSTEAD OF
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BUT ANDREW YANG INSTEAD OF OFFERING MEN A COMMON ENEMY AS
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OFFERING MEN A COMMON ENEMY AS YOUR PREVIOUS GUEST WAS TALKING
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YOUR PREVIOUS GUEST WAS TALKING ABOUT WHETHER IT COMES, YOU
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ABOUT WHETHER IT COMES, YOU KNOW, TO IMMIGRANTS OR WHETHER
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KNOW, TO IMMIGRANTS OR WHETHER IT'S WOMEN, ANDREW YANG IS
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IT'S WOMEN, ANDREW YANG IS OFFERING MEN A SOLUTION.
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OFFERING MEN A SOLUTION. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I
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SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WHETHER ANDREW YANG MAKES
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THINK WHETHER ANDREW YANG MAKES IT TO THE WHITE HOUSE SOMETHING
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IT TO THE WHITE HOUSE SOMETHING THAT THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD TAKE
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THAT THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD TAKE LITERALLY AND SERIOUSLY.
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LITERALLY AND SERIOUSLY. >> THE LAST PERSON TO SPEAK TO
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>> THE LAST PERSON TO SPEAK TO THIS BASE WAS PRESIDENT TRUMP.
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THIS BASE WAS PRESIDENT TRUMP. HE WAS ABLE TO RALLY THEM IN
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HE WAS ABLE TO RALLY THEM IN 2016.
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2016. COULD ANDREW YANG OF ALL PEOPLE
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COULD ANDREW YANG OF ALL PEOPLE BE THE GUY TO RALLY THESE VOTERS
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BE THE GUY TO RALLY THESE VOTERS OR PULL THEM FROM PRESIDENT
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OR PULL THEM FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP MAKING HIM A VIABLE
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TRUMP MAKING HIM A VIABLE CANDIDATE TO TAKE HIM ON?
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CANDIDATE TO TAKE HIM ON? >> ANDREW YANG'S MESSAGE ON THE
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>> ANDREW YANG'S MESSAGE ON THE ECONOMY IS UNIVERSAL BASIC
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ECONOMY IS UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME.
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INCOME. AND HE'S NOT SPEAKING DIRECTLY
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AND HE'S NOT SPEAKING DIRECTLY IN A POLITICAL SENSE.
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IN A POLITICAL SENSE. JUST TO MEN.
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JUST TO MEN. BUT HE'S SPEAKING TO THOSE WHO
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BUT HE'S SPEAKING TO THOSE WHO ARE IN INDUSTRIES OR SECTORS
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ARE IN INDUSTRIES OR SECTORS THAT ARE PREDOMINANTLY FEATURING
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THAT ARE PREDOMINANTLY FEATURING MEN SUCH AS TRUCK DRIVERS, FOR
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MEN SUCH AS TRUCK DRIVERS, FOR EXAMPLE.
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EXAMPLE. HE TALKS OFTEN AN THE CAMPAIGN
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HE TALKS OFTEN AN THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL HOW THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE
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TRAIL HOW THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING AUTOMATED OUT OF THE JOBS
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BEING AUTOMATED OUT OF THE JOBS AND THAT INDUSTRY IS POPULATED
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AND THAT INDUSTRY IS POPULATED BY MALES WHO ARE DRIVING TRUCKS
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BY MALES WHO ARE DRIVING TRUCKS ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND HE'S
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ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND HE'S SPEAKING TO THEIR GRIEVANCES
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SPEAKING TO THEIR GRIEVANCES ABOUT FEELING LEFT OUT AND IN AN
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ABOUT FEELING LEFT OUT AND IN AN ECONOMY THAT'S MOVING MORE
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ECONOMY THAT'S MOVING MORE TOWARD AUTOMATION AND TO LIZ'S
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TOWARD AUTOMATION AND TO LIZ'S POINT MANY OF THE SECTORS,
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POINT MANY OF THE SECTORS, INDUSTRIAL SECTORS THAT DO FEEL
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INDUSTRIAL SECTORS THAT DO FEEL THE FORCE OF AUTOMATION OFTEN DO
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THE FORCE OF AUTOMATION OFTEN DO FEATURE MEN WHO ARE UNHAPPY
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FEATURE MEN WHO ARE UNHAPPY ABOUT HOW THEY HAVE BEEN TREATED
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ABOUT HOW THEY HAVE BEEN TREATED BUT IT'S NOT A UNIVERSALLY MALE
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BUT IT'S NOT A UNIVERSALLY MALE ISSUE HERE.
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ISSUE HERE. WOMEN IN MANY SECTORS ARE
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WOMEN IN MANY SECTORS ARE FEELING LIKE THEIR JOBS ARE
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FEELING LIKE THEIR JOBS ARE BEING LOST TO AUTOMATION.
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BEING LOST TO AUTOMATION. WHEN YOU SPEAK TO ANDREW YANG HE
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WHEN YOU SPEAK TO ANDREW YANG HE SPEAKS TO THEM AS WELL.
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SPEAKS TO THEM AS WELL. >> IF HE SPEAKS TO THOSE PEOPLE
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>> IF HE SPEAKS TO THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE SAYING I'M FED UP, I
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WHO ARE SAYING I'M FED UP, I WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, IF THE
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WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT, IF THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE IS A MORE
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DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE IS A MORE TRADITIONAL CANDIDATE LIKE A JOE
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TRADITIONAL CANDIDATE LIKE A JOE BIDEN DOES ANDREW YANG MAKE A
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BIDEN DOES ANDREW YANG MAKE A VIABLE VP OPTION SINCE HE'S
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VIABLE VP OPTION SINCE HE'S MARKETING TO VOTERS SAYING I
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MARKETING TO VOTERS SAYING I DON'T WANT THE SAME THING?
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DON'T WANT THE SAME THING? >> YANG POLITICALLY YOU COULD
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>> YANG POLITICALLY YOU COULD SAY HE'S ASSOCIATED WITH SENATOR
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SAY HE'S ASSOCIATED WITH SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS.
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BERNIE SANDERS. EVEN SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN
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EVEN SENATOR ELIZABETH WARREN AND OTHERS WHO ARE SPEAKING TO A
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AND OTHERS WHO ARE SPEAKING TO A LARGER FEDERAL ROLL IN THE
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LARGER FEDERAL ROLL IN THE WORKFORCE WHETHER IT COMES TO
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WORKFORCE WHETHER IT COMES TO HEALTH CARE OR PROVIDING
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HEALTH CARE OR PROVIDING UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME.
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UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME. THERE'S A MOVEMENT IN THE
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THERE'S A MOVEMENT IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO HELP PEOPLE
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DEMOCRATIC PARTY TO HELP PEOPLE OUT.
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OUT. >> LIZ, WHETHER OR NOT ANDREW
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>> LIZ, WHETHER OR NOT ANDREW YANG STAYS IN THE RACE, WHAT
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YANG STAYS IN THE RACE, WHAT COULD THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY LEARN
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COULD THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY LEARN FROM HIM?
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FROM HIM? >> I THINK ANDREW YANG
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>> I THINK ANDREW YANG UNDERSTANDS WHAT A LOT OF
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UNDERSTANDS WHAT A LOT OF PROGRESSIVES UNDERSTAND WHICH IS
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PROGRESSIVES UNDERSTAND WHICH IS THAT THE PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT
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THAT THE PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY
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AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY SHOULDN'T BE A SPEAK EASY BUT A
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SHOULDN'T BE A SPEAK EASY BUT A BLOCK PARTY.
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BLOCK PARTY. EVERYONE IS WELCOME.
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EVERYONE IS WELCOME. YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW ALL OF
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YOU DON'T NEED TO KNOW ALL OF THE TERMS, KNOW EXACTLY, YOU
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THE TERMS, KNOW EXACTLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE THE RIGHT DRESS CODE
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KNOW, HAVE THE RIGHT DRESS CODE THAT'S REALLY A PARTY OPEN TO
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THAT'S REALLY A PARTY OPEN TO EVERYBODY AND SPECIFICALLY THAT
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EVERYBODY AND SPECIFICALLY THAT IT'S A PARTY THAT'S OPEN TO MEN.
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IT'S A PARTY THAT'S OPEN TO MEN. WE DON'T JUST TOLERATE MEN.
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WE DON'T JUST TOLERATE MEN. WE CELEBRATE THEM.
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WE CELEBRATE THEM. WE DON'T JUST UNDERSTAND THE
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WE DON'T JUST UNDERSTAND THE PAIN OF, YOU KNOW, WOMEN AND
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PAIN OF, YOU KNOW, WOMEN AND PEOPLE OF COLOR.
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PEOPLE OF COLOR. WE UNDERSTAND THE PAIN OF
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WE UNDERSTAND THE PAIN OF EVERYONE.
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EVERYONE. WE DON'T RANK THAT PAIN.
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WE DON'T RANK THAT PAIN. WE SEE THAT PAIN IS LINKED.
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WE SEE THAT PAIN IS LINKED. SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW,
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SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A REAL NEED FOR THE
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THERE'S A REAL NEED FOR THE PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT TO
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PROGRESSIVE MOVEMENT TO UNDERSTAND A MUCH MORE NUANCED
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UNDERSTAND A MUCH MORE NUANCED VIEW OF I THINK FEMINISM AND
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VIEW OF I THINK FEMINISM AND GENDER EQUALITY WHICH IS NOT
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GENDER EQUALITY WHICH IS NOT JUST THE FUTURE OF FEMALE WHICH