Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles Hi, we're Joel and Lia. And today's video is an open discussion on whether British people feel that they're European. 00:00:08,690 --> 00:00:11,330 - Now our normal style of video is very laughy and jokey. This one might not be as laughy, but we'll try to inject a few bits of humor. - Yeah I think it's because it's such a touchy subject, isn't it? - Yeah. - and like we've had a lot of comments from you guys you know, what's the young people's take on Brexit? How do you guys feel? And actually the reason for this video is because I got a bit of backlash. - Yeah. - Uploaded a video onto our channel and I titled the video "My European Trip" or something. - Adventure. - Adventure, My European, well done, Joel. - And you mentioned something about zebra crossings, how they mean something different in Europe than they do in the U.K. - Yeah. - Things like that, and people really picked up on it and were like, oh, this is classic Brits being arrogant, you are Europe, you're always separating yourself from Europe, like, you're not better than us, and it's - Yeah - It just, yeah, and someone linked us to a video of another YouTuber called Jen, who we'll link in the description, she made a discussion about it. She's European, she lives in the U.K. - Yeah. - And she was saying her opinion, which is she thinks Brits are a bit snobby by saying we're British, we identify as being British, not European. So we just thought we'd give our take on it. - We'll just give our take on it. Can I just say, I think if we had Euros as a currency - Yeah. - That would change a lot, wouldn't it? - Definitely, yeah. - When we go away to a European country, we change our currency into a different currency. It feels like Monopoly money. - Yeah. - It feels so fake, you're just like, a la la, I don't know about you - Yeah. - But I always feel like it's pretend and I'm like cash, cash, cash (laughs). - (laughs) Yeah, I know. And the fact that you have to travel over a sea. - Yeah. - Mentally it's not a huge, big, vast ocean. - Yeah, three or four hour flight somewhere. - We're an island, we've got a different currency, there are loads of other cultural differences. - Culturally we feel so different. - I think that's what it is. We have never, never, never been brought up in our school education, or education system, to be thought of as European. They're always like, you're British, you're British, you're British, you're British. - Yeah, I feel that too. And because I have Greek Cypriot heritage, I sort of have my relationships with my Greek and Cypriot family. And when I'm over there it's all so Mediterranean, it's all so different, it's me, but I still feel really British and I identify as a Brit. I don't feel like that's the same culturally. - No. - I don't feel like it's, obviously, it's just so hard to explain. - Yeah. - And I think the reason why it's a touchy subject, because it's really hard to tell someone how they should feel. - Yeah. - Do you know what I mean? - Yeah. - And I think a lot of people feel like now they can. A lot of people feel like they have the right to tell someone how they should feel, - Yeah. - or how they're meant to feel, when you absolutely can't. - No. - You would never, ever, I know this is out of context, you would never dream of telling a transgender person how, what gender they must feel, would you? - No. - And if you would, then maybe you're the problem (laughs). - (laughs) Yeah. - You would just never, would you? - No, or I'd never say to you, if you're telling me, oh I'm Greek, I'm half Greek, you're Cypriot, - No, you're British! - I'm not gonna be like no, you're British, you're not Greek. - You were born here. - You're not Greek. - You were born here. - I just think it's so stupid. If anyone that commented that on our video, if you're watching this, you are an idiot. You're one of the problem that by telling someone how they should feel, - how they should feel - How they should identify - That's why probably I've got identity problems. - Yeah (laughs). - I'm gonna link a video in the car that we did with Tom and I spoke about - Yeah. - How I went this this meetup in London for Greek people. And I was the only English-born Greek there, and everyone else was like Greek fresh off the boat. - Yeah. - Proper, like Greek accent, everything, and I just felt like I wasn't European or Greek enough to be there, honestly. This problem is so - Yeah. - Inside me, it's so hard to tell people how to feel. - Yeah. - And it really messes with them. - Yeah, and I think that's what it is. It goes deeper than just the actual geographical location. - Yeah. - 'Cause of course, we know that we are included in the continent of Europe. - Yeah. - You've Europe, you've got Asia, you've got America. - America. - It goes deeper than that. We're not saying that we're not part of the European continent, we know that. - Yeah. - We're just saying culturally, we're incredibly different to all of the other European countries. - Yeah, I wanna say this. In society we feel like we're allowed to label people. - It's so embedded in everything we are. You know, what's your job, what's your religion, oh, you're an accountant. You know, you meet people and you're like, I don't wanna be labeled by my job. - Yeah. - What are you, oh you're a YouTuber. But I'm so much more than that. - Yeah. - I'm a person, I'm a human. And I think it's very natural for us to want to label - Yeah. - Europeans, there, da da da da. You're Asian, over there. I just think it's, I just hate it, personally - Yeah. - I hate labeling. - Yeah. - It's a way of us categorizing people because that's the only way our brain can deal with things. - Yeah. - There's no right or wrong way to feel. But this is such a sensitive topic, and that's why I wanted to open it up to everyone who's watching. So write in the comments, especially if you are British. How do you identify? I'm not saying tell us if you voted remain or if you voted leave, 'cause that's a whole other thing. - Yeah, I think that's the political side of things. - Yeah. - Whereas I guess we're talking slightly more about - Culturally. - The cultural identity and that geographical sort of thing. - And culturally, I do not feel European. - No, me neither. If someone was like, oh, you're European, I'd be like, no. - I'd be like - I'm British. - I'm sorry, what, I'm a what? - I'd be like, oh you think I was Spanish? No (laughs). - No (laughs). I was born here and I'm really proud of that. - Yeah. - British-born, you meet British-born Pakistani, or British-born this, British-born that. Everyone loves that they have heritage from somewhere else. - Yeah. - But often people will say I'm British, I was born here. - Yeah. - If we were to touch on the political side of things, technically, moving forward we are no longer European. - Yeah. - Obviously, because Brexit is going ahead. - Yeah. - So yeah, we are gonna be like an independent Britain. But right now we are still in the European Union. - Yeah, I think we still are. Again, it's all uncertain. Lots of questions we get - No one knows. - are about Brexit, particularly from Europeans that are worried about like oh, is it gonna be harder to travel there, - Yeah. - Or can I study there? We don't know, no one knows. - No one knows the answers. Even politicians don't know the answers. - Yeah, it looks like it's gonna be a very long and hard road of negotiations and things like that. No one knows, you know as much as we do. - Yeah, all we know is we're gettin' a new passport - Yeah, and it's blue, yeah. - and it's blue. That's literally the only fact anyone knows. - Yeah. - And I think it's okay for us not to know 'cause I got a little bit worried, we were asked to do something, speaking about how young people feel about Brexit, and I was thinking, I don't know enough. But the thing is, no one does. - No, it's all opinions. - Yes, there's obviously people that studied economics or the way things work, - Yeah. - The way the world works, and they're able to really make more informed opinions. - Yeah. - Or like, assumptions, more informed assumptions, if that's a thing, - Yeah. - On how things will pan out. - Yeah. - But essentially, we don't know anything (laughs). - No, maybe we seem quite chilled about it, but that might be because we come from a privileged position of being British and - Yeah. - it not really affecting us that much. Like, I, my personal opinion, I don't think that Brexit is really gonna affect British people that much. It just might mean we have to apply for a Visa when we to Europe. - Okay, yep. - But apart from that, for people in European countries it might affect them because they wanna study here, or they wanna come here and it's gonna - Yeah. - affect it that way, so maybe we are privileged in being like, oh, it doesn't really matter. - Yeah, definitely. - Maybe it is more of a big deal to other people than it is to us. - And also, you can't say that almost 17 million people in the U.K. that voted Brexit are wrong. They voted for an independent Britain. And it would be so silly to assume that they're all wrong. Because yeah, I know - Yeah. - we live in London and London is mostly remain, hugely remain area. - Yeah.