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- Hi, guys, I'm Amanda Martin
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from Lindsey's Suite Deals Furniture.
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I came to VaynerMedia because I wanted to
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see how they could help my business.
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We did a few initial rounds of questions,
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and we felt that we were a good fit for each other.
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And what you guys are gonna watch is our first meeting
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about our brand, and just discussing
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what we were doing and getting into a deep dive
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of how we operate day-to-day business,
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and what we do to try to promote our business,
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and our marketing, and just everyday operations.
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And it was so exciting to be in that meeting
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and go through with all the Vayner mentors
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and really dig deep into our business.
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I can't wait for you guys to watch this,
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and hopefully somebody will learn something from it.
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I had a really good time doing this meeting,
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and I learned a lot, and we are implementing
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some of our tactics, and I cannot even begin to tell you
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how much it has helped, and the results that we've
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been getting, and I can't wait for the future
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and to implement some more of our ideas and tactics.
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Hope you guys enjoy it.
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Bye!
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(intense music)
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- You've got your perspective.
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I just wanna be happy, don't you wanna be happy?
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It's such a pleasure,
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how are you? - Nice to meet you.
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- Hi! - Hi, good to see you.
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- Me too. - So glad to see you.
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For two and a half years, my family business
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was known as Shopper's Discount Liquors.
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There was a sign printed on an eight by 10
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on the front sliding door
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that said "Wine Library," and that's how I,
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two and a half years, I traded as winelibrary.com
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and then made the shift to Wine Library
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from Shopper's Discount Liquors.
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So, one of the things you may want to debate, here,
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is if you're trading differently on dot-com,
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building up that brand equity,
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and then, if you decide that brand is something
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that you can put on the front of the building,
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it might be a worthwhile debate.
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- [Male] Yep.
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- So have, like, a different website name?
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- Yes. - Okay.
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- It's the easiest way for you to, like,
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solve this potential issue, I'm coming in cold,
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I'm listening, but it's being done a lot.
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Like, there's a lot of opportunity to play both fronts,
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and then you'll have the options to be able to absorb it,
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and with 85 fucking thousand square feet
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even if 20,000 or 30,000, how much is retail?
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No, no, some of it's warehouse.
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- [Male] I'd say we're probably right at 50,000 retail.
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- Right, it's unlimited space AKA picking one of the corners
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and doing something just like cool
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with like coffee and computers
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and calling it furniture, whatever you call it,
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let's just call it, Orsini's House,
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let's say that's the brand you went with,
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calling that corner like Orsini's Cafe,
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there's a couple tables,
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little fresh coffee
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and you've got laptops there
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and it's all to Orsini's,
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now you've injected that in your,
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it's an organ within your body
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that eventually could become the body.
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Something to think about. - So like on the computers
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they'd be able to shop the website or?
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- Yes.
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It's just establishing the brand strategically.
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Like I would argue one of the things
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that may come up here today
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is literally looking at 5,000 square feet
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to do something completely left fucking field,
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like a coworking space.
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If you're selling B to B merch,
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are you selling to B to B's at all?
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- [Amanda] Not really.
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- It's kind of an interesting conversation
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as start up craze takes over the world.
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I know this is super left field
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but what if you did have three to five thousand square feet
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of coworking space
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and had entrepreneurs sitting there
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the same way Starbucks has them sitting there
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and then that started giving you a B to B flavor
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'cause you have people there
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and all of a sudden even the area they're in
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has B to B thinking around,
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it's more like do you need a couch for your office?
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That could just change the dynamics
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of different usage for you.
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Look, I think both ways can work.
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To me, the bigger question
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is what are you trying to accomplish?
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So let me ask a different question,
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what's your lease situation?
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- [Amanda] We're buying the building.
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- That's great.
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So I assume that's a big capital expenditure?
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- [Amanda] Mmhmm.
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- So I think you've got to really be smart here
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because if you're making that cog move,
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I do not believe it's a good buy
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no matter how good of a deal you're getting
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unless you turn the location into something
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more than what you actually do.
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I couldn't say this enough.
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You're so young.
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I'm so worried about what your business looks like
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between a dot-com and a physical location
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a decade from today, not this year,
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that I think what this is all about,
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the reason we even built mentors
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is I knew that in these meetings,
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there's gonna be one to three things that we could bring
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that are disproportionately impactful
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for what it costs in return.
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The number one thing I would tell you
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is the two things that you need to care about,
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I literally don't care
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about anything else in your business right now
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other than two things.
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One, the hell are you gonna do
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inside your 85,000 square feet that's different
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that has nothing to do or is complementary to what you do
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for the sake of the business?
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Even marketing, back to B to B,
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real estate, what if you're the stage
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for all real estate events in your,
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you have to figure that out.
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And number two, you have to figure out dot-com.
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Every day that you wake up,
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find good deals, taking care of your staff,
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taking care of your customers, amazing,
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guess what?
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Number three, four and five.
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Number one and two is what other capital
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are we gonna pour into this 85,000 square feet
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that are gonna,
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like you know what comes with renovations,
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you may have to have a separate entrance,
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you may have to, who the hell knows right?
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I couldn't stress enough of that importance,
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in parallel, you're pulling from opposite directions.
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You're making a double investment into your physical
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and you're trying to almost eliminate people
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from coming in to build up your dot-com,
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that religion.
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It's what I did.
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I love giving advice I took.
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We built a seven million dollar building
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while we poured every asset into building winelibrary.com
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into one of the biggest leaders.
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And if my dad was sitting here right now,
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his biggest concern is like foot traffic is down.
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The end. - Yeah
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and I think sometimes my long term sight
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that's what I get worried about
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but I know that E-com is important as well.
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- There is no as well.
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- [Male] Everything's equally important.
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We have to build today,
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no, we've got to think about tomorrow
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and me being on the front end of all this,
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that's what I deal with every single day.
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Everybody walks through that door
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no matter how I price, what floor structure I have,
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they've got their phone in front of them.
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- I want this. - I can get it here
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for this price.
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- Are you willing to match it?
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And I apologize, what are you doing in that scenario?
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Are you matching pricing?
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- [Male] Oh yeah.
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- 100% of the time, if it's legit?
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- [Male] There's some things that we see--
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- [Amanda] 98% of the time.
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- [Male] I had an instance the other day
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where we was gonna make seven bucks.
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- I think you're making a huge mistake then
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and you have a huge opportunity.
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Let me tell you a story.
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My dad,
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in the liquor business they have something called the ABC.
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ABC came in one day and they're like,
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"You can't do case discounts."
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My dad's reaction was to put everything at 15% off
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from bottle one.
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So it wasn't even a case discount anymore,
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in essence, everything was on sale.
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- The store was on sale.
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- The store was on sale.
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So some things were on sale sale
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like it was 15, it's 9.99
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but if it wasn't, if it was just a regular item, it was 15,
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by default it rung up at the register 15% off.
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The problem was he never told anyone.
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We did no marketing.
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So overnight one day,
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we became the best priced store in the state
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yet nobody knew
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and people didn't even know
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'cause we didn't do internal signage.
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I'm just telling you the truth.
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People would be like, alright, I'm gonna buy this for 15,
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you get to the register and it's 13.40,
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ahh, okay.
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- Price mistake.
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- I am telling you right now,
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I'm telling you right now,
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the number one thing I would do right now,
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temporary banner sign, not sign on the building,
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is have as big of a sign as the town will let you say
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that we match all internet prices,
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little asterisk, as you get closer to the building it says,
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two percent, like, I would just arbitrarily,
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and you've got to find out the like,
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but I think it's two percent of times
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there are some restrictions or private labels
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that we're unable to match.
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Nobody driving by your building
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and coming to your store thinks that.
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Here's my question,
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if the truth is,
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if five out of 10 people
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are actually doing what you just said,
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I would tell you that you should go there.
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If it's three out of 10
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but it feels like every person,
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then you've got to debate
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because you'd be giving up a lot of margin.
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If it's seven out of 10,
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you might want to make it a permanent sign in your building.
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Now my question is, what is it really?
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What's your gut tell you?
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- [Male] I would say that actually approaches
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me or a sales person on the floor
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probably three out of 10.
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- But you know it's
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in their minds. - But when I'm
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walking around that store,
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they don't know I'm-- - Everyone's on the phone.
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Watching.
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- 20 feet away and I see a husband and wife
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over there with their telephone out,
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I don't think they're texting their grandkids.