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  • - Do you think that it is hard to be

  • a rapper with your kind of skin tone?

  • - What are you tryin' to say?

  • - Can we open?

  • - You can open.

  • What's up?

  • - I don't recognize you.

  • - Do you know who I am?

  • - No.

  • - Are you?

  • - Ryan Gosling.

  • [laughter]

  • - Wow-ow.

  • - What is your job?

  • - I am a musician.

  • - Have you ever done a stage dive?

  • - I've done many stage dives.

  • - How many hours a week do you work?

  • - Who's to say how much work really tour is?

  • You're really only on stage for like,

  • an hour and a half a night.

  • - And plus you're already just

  • restating the songs that you already made.

  • - Right, is that even work in the first place?

  • Question mark. We don't know.

  • - Is there like song that you get like tired of singing?

  • - Yes, it's a song called Thrift Shop.

  • [Laughter]

  • - What school do you guys go to?

  • - What's your favorite song?

  • - Uh, McCleur.

  • I got to McCleur and he goes to Hamilton.

  • - You guys go to different schools.

  • - Yeah.

  • - Man back in the day,

  • McCleur and Hamilton use to be kinda bad schools.

  • - Oh, McCleur sucks.

  • - Does it?

  • - Yes.

  • - That's where I probably started to do drugs,

  • was with McCleur kids man.

  • [Laughter]

  • Like actually for real.

  • I went to a McCleur party, in seventh grade,

  • and I think that was it.

  • - Why do you always use your hands when you talk, like well?

  • - I rap, so like I.

  • - Told ya!

  • You do it.

  • - No I'm showing you, this is like exaggerated,

  • but like yeah, I rap.

  • - Have you been recognized?

  • - I got recognized on the way over here.

  • I was in Barnes and Nobel, someone stops me and says

  • "Has anyone ever told you, that you look

  • a lot like Macklemore?"

  • So, normally I just say no, but today I said yes.

  • And she said, "I mean obviously you're not him."

  • And in my mind I'm like, does she think I look older?

  • I was thinking the other day that should

  • keep a wig in my glove compartment of my car.

  • I'm thinking like a brown kinda shag,

  • maybe a weird hat, some sunglasses,

  • I don't know.

  • [laughter]

  • - When you wrote the song White Privilege,

  • did you actually mean what you were saying?

  • - Yeah, absolutely.

  • The first version of White Privilege

  • I wrote when I was in college.

  • It was 2005, so thirteen.

  • - That was three years before I was born.

  • - Yeah, so it was thirteen years ago.

  • Long time ago, and I was observing a change in culture.

  • It was an observation.

  • It was questioning what's my place in this culture,

  • and processing it through a song.

  • - One of my favorite songs is the Immigrant Song.

  • - Who sings that?

  • - Led Zeppelin.

  • - Mmm.

  • - How do you not know that?

  • - Cause I listen to rap dude.

  • - Since you're a rapper, like you feel like

  • there's booze around you a lot, or?

  • - Yeah, everywhere I go there's just a bottle Ciroc vodka.

  • No, I'm just kidding.

  • - Okay good.

  • - There is definitely a lot of alcohol

  • in the music industry in general,

  • but it's been a really long time

  • since I've had a drink of alcohol.

  • - That's pretty good.

  • - Yeah.

  • I think that what separates me from a normal person,

  • is that when I put a drink or a drug into my body,

  • it's like I have an allergic reaction to it,

  • and I can't get enough of it.

  • So for me, any drug is a bad drug for me.

  • - Where you on drugs once?

  • - I was.

  • - Mmm.

  • - Oof, yeah. It's a long road back.

  • - Yeah.

  • - Well Tommy, you wouldn't know.

  • - Well yeah I wouldn't know,

  • but I read all the like pamphlets they give us in school.

  • Don't do drugs kids, which is probably accurate.

  • - And you've listened.

  • - Yeah.

  • - Good.

  • - Can you still write music when you take drugs?

  • - Music that's not very good, yes.

  • - What's the most recent time you've had a relapse?

  • - Two years ago, it was bad, this is bad.

  • - Okay.

  • - No it's fine, we can go there.

  • - No, no, no, if you don't want to.

  • - No it's fine.

  • There was a photo shoot, for People Magazine.

  • I was told that we were going to be a like,

  • 50 sexiest people.

  • - Nice.

  • - It turns out, it was like 50 sexiest like animal hunters.

  • - You hunt, do you hunt?

  • - Which is like a big difference.

  • - Yeah.

  • - Um, yeah.

  • - Yeah, like great.

  • So I was very high, I think I passed out at some point.

  • - Oh geez.

  • - It was all bad.

  • Anyway, that was the last time.

  • - What would you say your favorite drink is now?

  • - You know what I really enjoy,

  • is a fine chilled bottle of Martinelli's.

  • - That's delicious, the apple cider?

  • - Yeah man. - Pretty good.

  • - Do you still have the same passion for music

  • from when you started?

  • - I'm having to think about it, so I would say probably not.

  • I don't know, it's a tough question.

  • I feel like I'm kind of in a transition point in my life,

  • I wanna be a good dad.

  • - Do you have kids?

  • - I do.

  • - How many?

  • - Two kids.

  • You guys wanna see a picture of my daughter?

  • - Okay.

  • - That's my new baby.

  • - Do you think you're a good role model to your fans?

  • - It depends on the song.

  • What I try to embody with my music is being myself.

  • There's good versions of me,

  • and then there's the other person.

  • I have kind of this, yin and yang type of thing

  • to my personality.

  • So, depending on the song, you might get either version.

  • It's true to who I am, and other people

  • can relate to it too.

  • We're not perfect,

  • there's days where you're probably a great kid,

  • and there's day where sometimes your parents are like

  • "Oh my God."

  • Maybe. Maybe you're just great all the time, I don't know.

  • - Thank you.

  • - Are you?

  • - Kind of.

  • - See what I'm saying, see what I'm saying?

  • - Do you guys have any ideas in terms of

  • song, or songs, or album, or concepts, or any sort of idea

  • that I should put in to my music?

  • - Honestly no, cause like you've been

  • doing pretty good by yourself.

  • - Your albums are great.

  • - Good job Tom.

  • - We like them.

  • - I love you guys.

  • We'll thank you guys.

  • - You wanna sing Marmalade?

  • - Can I hear you do it?

  • - Okay.

  • Ain't nobody get up in my car today.

  • - Aye.

  • - Back seat feeling like a charter plane.

  • - Aye.

  • - I be riding through the town,

  • my music up.

  • Windows down yeah you can hear me now.

  • I turn it up.

  • - Up.

  • - I need that bass.

  • - Bass!

  • - And my chain so bright can't see my face.

  • I be riding through the town, town, town,

  • I be riding through the town, town, town.

  • Yeah, I'm done.

  • [laughter and clapping]

  • - Yo that was very good.

  • That was very, I'm very impressed.

  • - I'm sweating.

- Do you think that it is hard to be

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