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  • Right now, I'm standing on the Palestinian side

  • of the wall that separates the Palestinians

  • from the Israelis.

  • According to the Israeli government,

  • the separation wall is a security measure

  • built to protect against terrorist attacks,

  • and has resulted in a dramatic drop

  • in Israeli deaths and casualties.

  • It's also a flash point.

  • There's been a lot of violence here,

  • a lot of clashes between the Israeli forces

  • and Palestinians, rock throwing, tear gas, killings.

  • And, of course, right here the ultimate symbol

  • of divisiveness,

  • (audience laughs)

  • Donald Trump kissing the guard tower.

  • Apparently, he thinks it's his fourth wife.

  • (audience laughs)

  • While we were filming at the wall,

  • I was confronted by a group of pro-Palestinian activists.

  • What do you think of this wall?

  • Is this a normal wall?

  • Well, no.

  • I don't think any wall like this is normal.

  • Do you?

  • I'm Palestinian.

  • I do not. Yeah, no.

  • No, no, no. Not at all.

  • It's sad.

  • It's very sad.

  • Walls like this. I've been in prison

  • at the end of the day.

  • You don't create peace by segregating people.

  • And they can't keep saying,

  • "Oh, well, they throw rocks."

  • You've got M-16s.

  • You've got tanks.

  • You can't compare that.

  • There's also another side of it

  • where there are people who would say

  • we don't want the Jewish State to exist at all.

  • No, no. We don't want to accept it

  • at all.

  • No, if you speak to Palestinians,

  • you could go into refugee camps,

  • which they would never take you, right? Right.

  • But you would be welcomed.

  • And people welcome you into their home.

  • And give you the clothes off their back.

  • No.

  • We're on our way to.

  • We wanted to go to a refugee camp.

  • Which one?

  • With the IDF.

  • No, we're not going with the IDF.

  • We were headed.

  • Let me ask you a question.

  • What do you see as a solution?

  • As a solution.

  • Well, one, America has to stop giving Israel

  • $10 million a day just for weapons.

  • Once the weapons stop,

  • Israel has no choice but to speak,

  • to talk about peace.

  • And if American people knew where their money was going,

  • and the fact that when they,

  • when, when, when our wonderful orange president

  • got elected and people are very sad that.

  • Let's not go after him for having orange hair.

  • (laughter)

  • Yeah.

  • Now you're getting personal.

  • Now you have a problem with me.

  • It's his orange face.

  • It's his face.

  • No, but it.

  • That got very personal very fast.

  • (laughter)

  • Well, here's what I can tell you.

  • I can tell you that there's no way my 40-minute program

  • is gonna satisfy what it is you want me to do.

  • It's not, it's not that. Well, hold it.

  • Let me just finish.

  • What I do promise to do is make sure

  • that people who watch this program

  • will have an idea that this other reality exists.

  • Thank you for talking to me.

  • Thank you.

  • I hope you. Yeah, and I,

  • if you're cool with us putting this online.

  • Yes, we are. As it unfolded.

  • I'd be happy to do that.

  • Okay.

  • The unedited version of this encounter can be found online.

  • But to be fair,

  • I must emphasize we did not have a similar conversation

  • with the people who dispute these views.

  • I'm standing here in Aida.

  • It is one of the oldest Palestinian refugee camps.

  • And tell us what does this represent?

  • The opening here.

  • This is the gate of 1948.

  • It symbolize the right of return for the refugees.

  • Our grandfathers, they were forced to leave their

  • villages, their houses.

  • So they hold the keys.

  • After 60 years, we are waiting for the international

  • community to implement the UN Resolution 194,

  • that gave us the right to return for our homeland.

  • UN Resolution 194 came in the aftermath

  • of Israel's first war with their Arab neighbors.

  • Whether the refugees fled their homes

  • or were forced from their homes

  • is still a hotly disputed question to this day.

  • The children that live here,

  • are they growing up in a situation where they have

  • no expectation that there'll be peace?

  • We, as Palestinians, we are teaching the people

  • that we will have peace on this land.

  • We can live together here.

  • Would it be possible for me to go in

  • and talk to some people?

  • Is that possible?

  • Yes, we can go.

  • Hello.

  • What is your name?

  • My name is Jedda.

  • Do you live here in Aida?

  • Mhm.

  • Okay.

  • Do you feel like people in America understand

  • what's happening here?

  • You couldn't get a visa to come in.

  • What was your masters in?

  • Environmental studies.

  • Wow.

  • Very impressive person.

  • Thank you.

  • Yeah, best of luck to you.

  • Thank you.

  • Did these guys all grow up here in Aida?

  • Yes.

  • Who's the cool one here?

  • Who's the coolest guy here?

  • Him!

  • (laughter)

  • He's the cool guy.

  • There's always one.

  • If you get three kids together,

  • He's the leader. there's one cool guy.

  • You're the boss, right?

  • Yes.

  • (laughter)

  • (audience laughs, claps)

  • Yes.

  • What do they wanna say to kids their age in America?

  • Would they like to come visit America someday?

  • What would you like to see in America?

  • Statue of Liberty?

  • Statue of Liberty?

  • You wanna see that?

  • Yes.

  • Okay.

  • And Trump.

  • You wanna meet Trump.

  • That's the guy you wanna meet?

  • This is the last one there, too.

  • Oh, my gosh.

Right now, I'm standing on the Palestinian side

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