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  • >>> ANOTHER VIOLENT DAY IN

  • EGYPT.

  • MORE CLASHES BETWEEN SECURITY

  • FORCES AND PROFESTERS BACKING

  • OUSTED PRESIDENT MOMENHAMED MOR.

  • PAUL STEINHAUSER FINDS OUT

  • AMERICANS FAVOR A CAUTIOUS

  • APPROACH.

  • >> HEY, FRED.

  • THE U.S. SHOULD STEER CLEAR OF

  • THE UNREST IN EGYPT.

  • THAT SEEMS TO BE THE MESSAGE

  • FROM THE MOST RECENT POLLING.

  • MORE THAN THREE-QUARTERS OF

  • AMERICANS QUESTIONED SAID THAT

  • WASHINGTON SHOULD MOSTLY STAY

  • OUT OF THE EVENTS IN EGYPT AND 6

  • IN 10 SAID U.S. AID TO EGYPT

  • SHOULD BE REDUCED OR ELIMINATED.

  • THE POLL WAS CONDUCTED LAST

  • MONTH WELL BEFORE THIS WEEK'S

  • OUTBURST OF NEW VIOLENCE.

  • A PEW RESEARCH CENTER SURVEY

  • CONDUCTED AROUND THE SAME TIME

  • FOUND A DROP IN THE NUMBER OF

  • PEOPLE WHO SAID THE UNREST IN

  • EGYPT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO

  • AMERICAN INTERESTS.

  • FRED?

  • >> THANKS SO MUCH, PAUL

  • STEINHAUSER.

  • SO THOSE POLLS SHOW MOST

  • AMERICANS FAVOR A CAUTIOUS

  • APPROACH, BUT THE ESCALATION OF

  • VIOLENCE ALSO MEANS THE WHITE

  • HOUSE IS FINDING ITSELF WITH

  • FEWER OPTIONS IN ITS MILITARY

  • ALLIANCE WITH EGYPT.

  • THE BIGGEST MOVE SO FAR HAS BEEN

  • THE CANCELING OF JOINT MILITARY

  • EXERCISES SCHEDULED FOR NEXT

  • MONTH.

  • JAMES "SPIDER" MARKS IS CNN'S

  • ANALYST AND A FORMER COMMANDER.

  • EXPLAIN THIS RELATIONSHIP

  • BETWEEN THE U.S. AND EGYPT.

  • WHY IS THIS SO IMPORTANT

  • STRATEGICALLY?

  • >> WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S IN

  • THE VERY, VERY VOLATILE

  • OBVIOUSLY VERY IMPORTANT MIDDLE

  • EAST.

  • THE SUEZ CANAL RUNS RIGHT

  • THROUGH EGYPT AND IN ORDER FOR

  • OIL TO TRANSIT, COMMERCE TO

  • TRANSIT, YOU NEED TO HAVE ACCESS

  • TO THE SUEZ CANAL.

  • SO THE UNITED STATES PRESENCE IN

  • THAT REGION IS INCREDIBLY

  • IMPORTANT.

  • ALSO ISRAEL IS A NEIGHBOR OF

  • EGYPT.

  • OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST

  • THREE DECADES, ISRAEL AND EGYPT

  • HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW TO

  • COOPERATE AND GET ALONG.

  • THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND

  • IT'S BEEN THE ANCHOR OF OUR

  • STABILITY IN THE REGION FOR THAT

  • AMOUNT OF TIME.

  • THE ACTUAL MILITARY EXERCISES

  • THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE WITH

  • EGYPT SINCE 1980 FOLLOWED THE

  • CAMP DAVID ACCORDS THAT WERE IN

  • PLACE AND HAVE BEEN AN ONGOING

  • EXERCISE SERIES WITH NOT ONLY

  • THE EGYPTIAN MILITARY BUT OTHER

  • FRIENDS AND ALLIES IN THE REGION

  • AND HAVE BEEN QUITE SUCCESSFUL

  • IN TERMS OF ESTABLISHING FORMS

  • OF MILITARY INTEROPERABILITY,

  • THAT MEANS HOW DO YOU WORK

  • TOGETHER BOTH AT THE HIGHEST

  • STRATEGIC LEVELS AND THEN FIELD

  • TRAINING EXERCISE AT THE VERY

  • LOWEST LEVELS, AND THOSE ARE

  • TRUST-BUILDING EXERCISES.

  • WE FIGURE OUT HOW THEY WORK,

  • THEY FIGURE OUT HOW WE WORK, AND

  • OUR MILITARY EQUIPMENT, OUR

  • TRAINING, OUR EDUCATION, AND OUR

  • DOCTRINE LOOK VERY, VERY MUCH

  • THE SAME.

  • IT'S AN IMPORTANT RELATIONSHIP

  • THAT WE CAN'T ABANDON.

  • NOW, THE FACT THAT THE PRESIDENT

  • HAS CANCELED BRIGHT STAR, WHICH

  • IS THE NAME OF THE EXERCISE, FOR

  • THIS YEAR IS NOT A BIG DEAL.

  • HE'LL BE WABL TO OVERCOME THAT,

  • BUT I DO THINK THE AID WE

  • PROVIDE EGYPT IS IMPORTANT AND

  • WE NEED TO HOLD ONTO THAT, NOT

  • DECLARE THAT WE'RE GOING TO

  • WITHDRAW IT.

  • >> WHAT IF IT WERE TO BE

  • TEMPORARILY SUSPENDED, NOT

  • NECESSARILY ENDED THROUGHOUT,

  • BUT SUSPENDED AS A RESULT OF THE

  • CURRENT TURMOIL?

  • >> WELL, ABSOLUTELY.

  • I MEAN, YOU COULD SUSPEND IT AND

  • SAY, LOOK, HERE IS THE QUID PRO

  • QUO.

  • YOU DO THIS, WE'LL THEN

  • REINSTATE.

  • THERE COULD ALSO BE SOME --

  • WHAT'S KNOWN AS EASTERLY

  • CIVILIAN OR COMMERCIAL AID THAT

  • COULD TAKE PLACE THROUGH USAID.

  • THAT'S NOT AS SIGNIFICANT IN

  • TERMS OF ITS SIZE AND ITS

  • ABILITY TO IMPACT WHAT'S GOING

  • ON.

  • WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN RIGHT NOW

  • CLEARLY, FRED, IS THE VIOLENCE

  • HAS TO SUBSIDE SO THE ONLY WAY

  • THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS

  • THROUGH SOME TYPE OF MILITARY

  • ACTION.

  • DIPLOMACY AT THIS POINT HAS A

  • VERY STRONG MILITARY FLAVOR.

  • >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN MILITARY

  • ACTION?

  • MEANING U.S. MILITARY

  • INVOLVEMENT IN THE CRISIS IN

  • TRYING TO QUIET THINGS DOWN?

  • WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT?

  • >> NOT AT ALL.

  • WHAT I MEAN IS THOSE

  • RELATIONSHIPS ARE IN PLACE.

  • THEY'RE VERY STRONG.

  • THEY'RE VERY BROAD.

  • THEY'RE VERY RICH IN TERMS OF

  • THEIR CULTURE AND HISTORY.

  • THE UNITED STATES DOES HAVE

  • INFLUENCE, BUT THEY ARE LOSING

  • THAT INFLUENCE, AND THE KEY

  • INFLUENCE THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW IS

  • THAT OUR MILITARIES COOPERATE

  • AND THEY KNOW EACH OTHER AWFULLY

  • WELL.

  • WHAT WE SHOULD DO IMMEDIATELY IS

  • WE SHOULD HAVE A VERY OPEN

  • COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE

  • EGYPTIANS.

  • I'M CONFIDENT WE ARE, AND MOST

  • OF THOSE ARE PROBABLY BACK

  • CHANNEL COMES AND WE NEED TO GE

  • THE MILITARY TO ALTER THEIR

  • RULES OF ENGAGEMENT.

  • THEY SHOULD BE ARMS BUT THEY

  • SHOULD HAVE STRICT ENGAGEMENT

  • CRITERIA.

  • THEY SHOULD NOT BE SHOOTING INTO

  • THE CROWDS.

  • THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD IS NOT A

  • LARGE, SIGNIFICANT THREAT.

  • IT'S LOSING ITS RELEVANCE.

  • THE PEOPLE DON'T WANT THEM THERE

  • ANYMORE.

  • THEY'VE LOST THEIR -- ANY FORM

  • OF LEGITIMACY, AND IT CAN

  • SUBSIDE IF THE MILITARY CAN

  • LEARN TO ACT WITH A LITTLE MORE

  • RESTRAINT, WHICH IT HAS NOT YET

  • DEMONSTRATED.

  • THAT WILL HAPPEN --

  • >> BUT IN A LARGE PART IT'S

  • CREATED A REAL PROBLEM FOR THE

  • U.S. TO EVEN OFFER OR INITIATE

  • DIALOGUE WITH WHOM?

  • I MEAN, THE LEADERSHIP IS

  • NONEXISTENT RIGHT NOW, OR AT

  • LEAST A CLEAR FORM OF LEADERSHIP

  • IS NONEXISTENT.

  • >> WELL, THERE'S NO FORM OF

  • LEADERSHIP THAT'S VIABLE IN

  • TERMS OF THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD

  • DIRECTING ACTIVITIES BECAUSE

  • WHAT YOU HAVE IS A LOT OF LOCAL

  • VIOLENCE THAT'S TAKING PLACE AND

  • THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD HAS SAID

  • THIS IS DISASSOCIATED FROM OUR

  • AFFILIA

  • AFFILIATIONS.

  • THESE ARE NOT OUR FOLKS.

  • WE'RE A PEACEFUL GROUP.

  • CLEARLY, THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

  • >> ALL RIGHT.

  • >> MILITARY, HOWEVER, IS IN

>>> ANOTHER VIOLENT DAY IN

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