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So for any of us in this room today,
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let's start out by admitting we're lucky.
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We don't live in the world
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our mothers lived in, our grandmothers lived in,
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where career choices for women were so limited.
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And if you're in this room today,
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most of us grew up in a world
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where we had basic civil rights,
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and amazingly, we still live in a world
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where some women don't have them.
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But all that aside, we still have a problem,
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and it's a real problem.
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And the problem is this:
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Women are not making it
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to the top of any profession
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anywhere in the world.
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The numbers tell the story quite clearly.
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190 heads of state --
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nine are women.
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Of all the people in parliament in the world,
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13 percent are women.
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In the corporate sector,
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women at the top,
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C-level jobs, board seats --
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tops out at 15, 16 percent.
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The numbers have not moved since 2002
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and are going in the wrong direction.
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And even in the non-profit world,
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a world we sometimes think of
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as being led by more women,
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women at the top: 20 percent.
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We also have another problem,
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which is that women face harder choices
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between professional success and personal fulfillment.
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A recent study in the U.S.
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showed that, of married senior managers,
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two-thirds of the married men had children
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and only one-third of the married women had children.
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A couple of years ago, I was in New York,
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and I was pitching a deal,
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and I was in one of those fancy New York private equity offices
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you can picture.
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And I'm in the meeting -- it's about a three-hour meeting --
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and two hours in, there kind of needs to be that bio break,
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and everyone stands up,
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and the partner running the meeting
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starts looking really embarrassed.
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And I realized he doesn't know
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where the women's room is in his office.
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So I start looking around for moving boxes,
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figuring they just moved in, but I don't see any.
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And so I said, "Did you just move into this office?"
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And he said, "No, we've been here about a year."
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And I said, "Are you telling me
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that I am the only woman
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to have pitched a deal in this office in a year?"
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And he looked at me, and he said,
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"Yeah. Or maybe you're the only one who had to go to the bathroom."
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(Laughter)
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So the question is,
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how are we going to fix this?
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How do we change these numbers at the top?
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How do we make this different?
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I want to start out by saying,
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I talk about this --
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about keeping women in the workforce --
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because I really think that's the answer.
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In the high-income part of our workforce,
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in the people who end up at the top --
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Fortune 500 CEO jobs,
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or the equivalent in other industries --
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the problem, I am convinced,
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is that women are dropping out.
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Now people talk about this a lot,
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and they talk about things like flextime and mentoring
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and programs companies should have to train women.
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I want to talk about none of that today,
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even though that's all really important.
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Today I want to focus on what we can do as individuals.
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What are the messages we need to tell ourselves?
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What are the messages we tell the women who work with and for us?
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What are the messages we tell our daughters?
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Now, at the outset, I want to be very clear
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that this speech comes with no judgments.
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I don't have the right answer.
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I don't even have it for myself.
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I left San Francisco, where I live, on Monday,
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and I was getting on the plane for this conference.
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And my daughter, who's three, when I dropped her off at preschool,
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did that whole hugging-the-leg,
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crying, "Mommy, don't get on the plane" thing.
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This is hard. I feel guilty sometimes.
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I know no women,
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whether they're at home or whether they're in the workforce,
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who don't feel that sometimes.
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So I'm not saying that staying in the workforce
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is the right thing for everyone.
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My talk today is about what the messages are
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if you do want to stay in the workforce,
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and I think there are three.
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One, sit at the table.
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Two, make your partner a real partner.
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And three, don't leave before you leave.
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Number one: sit at the table.
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Just a couple weeks ago at Facebook,
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we hosted a very senior government official,
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and he came in to meet with senior execs
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from around Silicon Valley.
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And everyone kind of sat at the table.
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And then he had these two women who were traveling with him
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who were pretty senior in his department,
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and I kind of said to them, "Sit at the table. Come on, sit at the table,"
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and they sat on the side of the room.
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When I was in college my senior year,
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I took a course called European Intellectual History.
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Don't you love that kind of thing from college?
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I wish I could do that now.
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And I took it with my roommate, Carrie,
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who was then a brilliant literary student --
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and went on to be a brilliant literary scholar --
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and my brother --
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smart guy, but a water-polo-playing pre-med,
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who was a sophomore.
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The three of us take this class together.
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And then Carrie reads all the books
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in the original Greek and Latin,
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goes to all the lectures.
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I read all the books in English
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and go to most of the lectures.
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My brother is kind of busy.
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He reads one book of 12
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and goes to a couple of lectures,
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marches himself up to our room
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a couple days before the exam to get himself tutored.
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The three of us go to the exam together, and we sit down.
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And we sit there for three hours --
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and our little blue notebooks -- yes, I'm that old.
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And we walk out, and we look at each other, and we say, "How did you do?"
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And Carrie says, "Boy, I feel like I didn't really draw out the main point
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on the Hegelian dialectic."
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And I say, "God, I really wish I had really connected
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John Locke's theory of property with the philosophers who follow."
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And my brother says,
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"I got the top grade in the class."
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"You got the top grade in the class?
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You don't know anything."
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The problem with these stories
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is that they show what the data shows:
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women systematically underestimate their own abilities.
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If you test men and women,
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and you ask them questions on totally objective criteria like GPAs,
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men get it wrong slightly high,
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and women get it wrong slightly low.
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Women do not negotiate for themselves in the workforce.
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A study in the last two years
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of people entering the workforce out of college
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showed that 57 percent of boys entering,
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or men, I guess,
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are negotiating their first salary,
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and only seven percent of women.
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And most importantly,
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men attribute their success to themselves,
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and women attribute it to other external factors.
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If you ask men why they did a good job,
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they'll say, "I'm awesome.
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Obviously. Why are you even asking?"
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If you ask women why they did a good job,
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what they'll say is someone helped them,
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they got lucky, they worked really hard.
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Why does this matter?
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Boy, it matters a lot
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because no one gets to the corner office
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by sitting on the side, not at the table,
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and no one gets the promotion
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if they don't think they deserve their success,
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or they don't even understand their own success.
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I wish the answer were easy.
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I wish I could just go tell all the young women I work for,
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all these fabulous women,
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"Believe in yourself and negotiate for yourself.
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Own your own success."
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I wish I could tell that to my daughter.
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But it's not that simple.
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Because what the data shows, above all else, is one thing,
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which is that success and likeability
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are positively correlated for men
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and negatively correlated for women.
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And everyone's nodding,
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because we all know this to be true.
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There's a really good study that shows this really well.
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There's a famous Harvard Business School study
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on a woman named Heidi Roizen.
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And she's an operator in a company
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in Silicon Valley,
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and she uses her contacts
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to become a very successful venture capitalist.
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In 2002 -- not so long ago --
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a professor who was then at Columbia University
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took that case and made it Howard Roizen.
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And he gave the case out, both of them,
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to two groups of students.
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He changed exactly one word:
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"Heidi" to "Howard."
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But that one word made a really big difference.
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He then surveyed the students,
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and the good news was the students, both men and women,
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thought Heidi and Howard were equally competent,
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and that's good.
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The bad news was that everyone liked Howard.
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He's a great guy. You want to work for him.
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You want to spend the day fishing with him.
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But Heidi? Not so sure.
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She's a little out for herself. She's a little political.
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You're not sure you'd want to work for her.
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This is the complication.
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We have to tell our daughters and our colleagues,
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we have to tell ourselves to believe we got the A,
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to reach for the promotion,
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to sit at the table,
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and we have to do it in a world
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where, for them, there are sacrifices they will make for that,
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even though for their brothers, there are not.
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The saddest thing about all of this is that it's really hard to remember this.
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And I'm about to tell a story which is truly embarrassing for me,
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but I think important.
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I gave this talk at Facebook not so long ago
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to about 100 employees,
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and a couple hours later, there was a young woman who works there
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sitting outside my little desk,
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and she wanted to talk to me.
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I said, okay, and she sat down, and we talked.
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And she said, "I learned something today.
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I learned that I need to keep my hand up."
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I said, "What do you mean?"
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She said, "Well, you're giving this talk,
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and you said you were going to take two more questions.
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And I had my hand up with lots of other people, and you took two more questions.
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And I put my hand down, and I noticed all the women put their hand down,
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and then you took more questions,
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only from the men."
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And I thought to myself,
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wow, if it's me -- who cares about this, obviously --
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giving this talk --
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and during this talk, I can't even notice
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that the men's hands are still raised,
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and the women's hands are still raised,
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how good are we
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as managers of our companies and our organizations
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at seeing that the men are reaching for opportunities
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more than women?
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We've got to get women to sit at the table.
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(Applause)
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Message number two: