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  • I've got burger juice on my bare foot

  • - That's disgusting - You're vegan, you wouldn't get it

  • Hi guys welcome back to my channel

  • and if you're new here, I'm Rosie and that's my wife, Rose

  • Today we're going to be talking about our relationship

  • we're actually married, but we're just going to be talking about our relationship in general

  • Has YouTube affected our relationship?

  • and I think it's quite interesting one, as people know that uhh

  • - some of the Lesbian Youtubers have broken up - WHAT?!

  • There was also that couple who i think called Boy VS Girl who are quite

  • famously broke up said "ohh it's the pressure vlogging"

  • - I checked out their channel and they're back together - Yay!

  • - Vlogging everyday, tell me about it - Right, i don't do it

  • personally I think that number one - it's quite intrusive in a sense

  • yeah you're letting people like see your life. You're sharing everything, your journey so to speak

  • with your audience which is lovely but

  • also it doesn't give you a lot of time off of camera to...

  • Have sex!

  • -well that's one of the things but also to just do you -yeah

  • - not everything needs to be, not everything needs to be interrupted first of all, but shared

  • I think there needs to be a clear distinction, Rosie, between what you decide to put on the internet and

  • also what you do in your personal time.

  • Now, the good thing about our channel is everything that you put out there is genuinely

  • conversations that we normally have off the camera - Yup yup

  • But i still..even though that being said, I still don't want to have every conversation that is natural

  • on camera. Because I feel like something... - Yeah there're some conversations

  • ..need to be discussed off the camera - Yeah, agree

  • Like your breath

  • When we were at Vidcon on the LGBT panel

  • We were talking about boundaries, what you do and don't share

  • by the way if you can hear a noise in the background, it's the dog eating

  • And we said

  • we don't really have boundaries of what we share and we don't.

  • We never said "oh i will discuss this and i won't discuss this"

  • I don't have boundaries, but that doesn't mean to say that i want to have every conversation with you on camera

  • I can have a best friend right, but

  • if you see them every single day, you're gonna fall out,

  • you're going get annoyed of each other. You can't spend too much time together

  • even though we somehow manage to do it, but whatever.

  • But yeah..but occasionally we gonna argue

  • but you're going to get a little bit pissy with someone if you see them every day

  • and in that sense I think that the daily vlogging

  • it's like having an audience with you all the time, so i think you need a break

  • yeah one thing I will say is, from doing youtube we have built up obviously an audience

  • and then they the audience, you guys, come across and you're on our twitter, tumblr, instagram

  • Really annoying

  • and one thing that has changed is that i used to not care about what i tweeted

  • I don't really care too much now but it's very different tweeting something and a few of your friends replying

  • and then tweeting something to an audience and it's quite overwhelming

  • having so many different reponses. And like I don't know I guess

  • Yeah you can't be as homophobic as you like

  • and then it's quite overwhelming to read all these difference opinions

  • and then it makes you think "what's my opinion now?" because

  • so many viewers say all different things. Do you think it's like weaken your personality?

  • because so many people are saying different things about you and to you on the internet

  • My personality can't be touched.

  • But in terms of that affecting our relationship

  • I think that sometimes if i argue with someone on twitter, which is rare that it happens

  • uhm then maybe i'll be like really angry, maybe we won't have a very good day

  • because i'll be worked up

  • Another thing I think is difficult being on the internet is

  • because we're two women in a relationship

  • I think we got.. get compared to.. against each other like pitted against each other

  • when it's not really a comparison - right, where is..

  • -there's no contest

  • I feel like if we were a man and a woman, that wouldn't happen

  • and for some reason I've never been able to fathom why

  • "Fafom"? - Yeah "fafom"

  • fafom

  • [Rosie says fathom as fafom]

  • You said faff...Rosie - fafom

  • you said "fafom", what the fuck is fafom?

  • Fathom

  • Babe why can't you say "th"?

  • I can't...i say thumb [Rosie pronounce the "th" as "f"]

  • What did you just say? - "f"umb

  • Babe i did not married that

  • That's not what i married

  • Yeah you did

  • Women are more than looks. We've come a long way since

  • like the forties when we were just like pretty housewives who baked

  • so it's like why in this day and age when we're trying to be educated we're

  • trying to get equality you know we're trying to like you know really change

  • the world..so then it's like why you're like "that one's prettier"

  • it's like oh my god, we are more than looks

  • like you don't want men to judge your looks right

  • We are more than truth also

  • What?

  • - I could sit here and troll this conversation because i naturally like to do that..

  • - yeah, misogyny. - ..but Rosie has. got. a point

  • - yeah! - just because we're together and we're a same-sex couple and we're both absolutely stunning-

  • - it wouldn't happen if we were a man and a woman. - doesn't mean that we need to be compared to each other.

  • - yeah. - it causes stress and pressures on my relationship. not!

  • - but I think we're lucky that we're somehow not too sensitive about, because I guess it depends on

  • personalities but I think that could be a real pressure- - Well, i think that if you're going to put yourself

  • on the internet, whether it's alone or as a couple, you've got to have a

  • slightly thicker skin than anybody else. - Yeah

  • Out of the years I have developed quite thick skin, not like a clinical way where I need to get treated

  • or anything, but in a way that, you know, it's like one flip. You say something bad to me, yeah you might

  • get to me a little bit, but tomorrow I'm going to forget it, do you know what I mean? But it's harder when

  • your main "competition" is your wife

  • - yeah - but only you create that, not us.

  • Yeah. We're not in a competition with one another.

  • We already won.

  • here's something that annoys you about being online- that pressure that may affect

  • us online. - bandwidth.

  • - I definitely think that if we were doing it every day, there is less time in the day

  • you're right

  • just maybe it's not the audience, maybe it's not the vlogging of day, but maybe

  • it's the equivalent of having a long-houred high-pressured job.

  • - There could be a problem if YouTube ever became unfun to do

  • because first of all you guys would be able to tell from our videos that we weren't enjoying it

  • - Yeah. - I think that would, in itself, would put pressure on our

  • relationship because if we didn't like what we did,

  • - Yeah - but we had to do it to make money , then- - but the question is, is there such a word as "unfun"?

  • - Of course there is. - Do you mean "not fun"?

  • - Unfun. - I don't think that's a word.

  • - It's- it's not hyphenated. Yeah. It's an English word. It's- it's American British.

  • - Does that mean the word "un" is a word?

  • If it's not hyphenated, that means "un" is a word? Yeah, you're breaking the rules. You're trying to trick me.

  • - ..So? - I'm good at English, it's the only thing I've got. Even though I can't say "fathom".

  • What's our biggest YouTube related argument been about?

  • - Don't think we've ever had one.

  • I'll tell you one way, in that YouTube makes us argue. - Go on.

  • - Now, this actually makes me feel great,

  • sometimes our gaming equipment doesn't work

  • when we're about to film, and Rose gets really angry really quickly about things like

  • technology because- - Oh, I go from 1 to 100 in a second

  • - I get it. In Rose's mind, Rose is like, technology should work

  • - Yeah, yeah , yes. - right, like press a button, on.

  • Don't know how to press a button, off. Like- why- it's just simple- technology

  • either it works or it does'nt and sometimes it'll like, for some reason our

  • game capture software like, I don't know, doesn't work

  • - Yeah - Rose gets really irate. She's like, "Fuck's sake! I've- you know

  • - You don't want to see me have - I got up early..

  • a technology-related issue.

  • I feel like, because we got married for the right reasons, we've been together for a long time

  • started- uh- YouTube before it was a thing, like, well obviously it was a thing

  • - We weren't trying to do- be YouTube famous.

  • - We weren't, right, we weren't trying to be YouTube famous or internet celebrities

  • obviously, you know, we- that has manifested in itself because that's our destiny, but-

  • - Obviously we're A-list now. - I just feel like- I just feel like because we

  • started YouTube for the right reasons, number one, we started dating for the right reasons, number two,

  • nothing is fake because I feel like if something is fake or maybe even just

  • exaggerated for YouTube - Or staged, yeah. - Or staged

  • That is just an early grave in terms of your relation and a career- - Well, it depends if

  • you can act, and i'm not saying we can't act- I would love to do something scripted, but

  • everything is genuine. - Anything that's, like, disingenuous and not authentic I feel

  • like has a very limited shelf life - Yeah, 'cos there's only so long that you can fake it

  • - But no, I mean we're not faking anything. If anything we're faking is the fact that we're sisters.

  • but yeah! [both say it at the same time] - that's weird

  • Just like we're married

  • - I don't know why - See this is why we're good on camera because you can

  • slap me and I'm gonna laugh about it

  • YouTube may have made our relationship stronger or our relationship might have just grown, naturally

  • blossomed and then as we were doing that we were also YouTubeing from day 1, so that's

  • grown. So maybe we're just- it has to have affected our relationship because it wasn't like

  • we were in a relationship and then suddenly we turn the cameras on our lives-

  • - Exactly! - and then had to cope with that. We've actually- and it's- it was good almost

  • because when our relationship was small and growing and developing, our audience was

  • small and growing and developing, and- you know- now we're married and we have a bigger audience, but

  • it's like, you know, we're obviously married because we can cope with our relationship,

  • the ups and downs. That's why we got married- you know- we're in it for the long haul.

  • - Yeah. Guys, we're just like you

  • you know, we're human beings, so - But we're not poor.

  • - We- exactly, exactly, we're not poor and we dress better. But I just want to say that- you

  • know- we have our bad days too. You know, how much of that can I blame on YouTube?

  • Probably none of it.

  • - Yeah - you know, because we go through normal human being

  • type feelings in our relationship. - Yeah, we've gotta have a bad- we can't go through life- like I'm a positive person,

  • but I can't be happy 24/7 like that, that's so unrealistic. - Exactly.

  • So we do have negative emotions, just like I'm sure you do,

  • so we're very real in that sense. - We just have less than you 'cause we have a great job.

  • - Well the money makes it easier so- - Yeah, best fiends

  • when we feel bad, we'll just go blow a few thousand - Yeah

  • - Spend that dollar. - When you feel bad- when you feel bad

  • - You can't make it rain - you're going to blow your nose

  • - That's all you're gonna blow - That's all you're gonna blow

  • - Do you know what really annoys me?

  • When you have a go at me for making a barrier between us in bed with the duvet- - Rose makes a barrier

  • - I don't mean to do it, but I'm comfy if I make the barrier

  • that I'd roll on. I have to have one leg in and one leg out.

  • I'm just- I'm that kind of girl. - You make a barrier

  • - It's not a barrier! It's just my comfort procedure, and you take it so personally, like

  • [high pitched] "Ohmygod you're making a barrier between us! We're like married, touch me touch me!"

  • Even though it's like, 30 degrees outside and

  • your hot sweaty naked body is on mine. I'm like: I'm dying!

  • - Yeah but the question is, how angry are you genuinely about this?

  • - Not that angry. Just trying to make an argument here. - Exactly!

  • - Ok something I need to talk about in this video is the fact that a lot of

  • comments had said "Oh Rose, you don't kiss Rosie as much anymore in videos"

  • Let me tell you why. So I went through this phase of really worrying

  • that anything overly sexual was going to drive views and traffic to the channel

  • but I didn't want views and like- - Because we kiss. - I didn't- I didn't want it for those

  • reasons so I actively stopped kissing Rosie for several months in videos

  • - Even though you would naturally kiss me, we were never kissing because it was forced

  • we'd actually like- used to, like, sometimes you'd, like, hump me and shit on camera

  • but you were like "look, I don't want to get views 'cause of that. I'm trying to be entertaining-

  • So I went through this phase of worrying that every time I naturally kissed Rosie which was completely genuine-

  • - People thought it was fake - would be perceived as fake or like clickbait or anything

  • like that, which I can understand. Um, so-

  • But then I made you realize that actually the most unnatural thing and most fake thing is to

  • not kiss me when you wanted to

  • So I was like, look, if you want to kiss me, kiss me, if you don't, don't, but don't like actively

  • not touching your wife - actively do one or the other, right.

  • - it's just as bad as kissing me just for views, they're both just as bad. Just be natural.

  • And Rose was like, "Yeah, that's what we're about." - So now I don't really give much of a shit because

  • I just think "yeah okay if I kiss her, I kiss her. If I don't, I don't. If I use like a

  • slightly kissing thumbnail

  • then I will. That's not clickbait because if I kiss in the video- - So what, if we're kissing in the video-

  • and I kiss in the thumbnail, that's exactly what it says in the tin. So that's why I didn't kiss

  • Rosie for a while but now we're back to being completely genuine because I thought

  • what better thing to do- uh-

  • to promote a genuine relationship

  • than to be genuine and kiss Rosie whenever I want to kiss Rosie.

  • that's what we want to show our audience.

  • This is our natural relationship. - So yeah, it did affect our relationship for a

  • while, me being very very sensitive about what might drive views and what might not but now

  • who cares!

  • We're just going to keep doing us and there you go. So all in all, guys, I don't really feel like

  • YouTube has negatively affected our relationship. If anything it makes it stronger,

  • it's good because we started at the right time, you guys have grown up with our relationship, so

  • everything you see has been authentic and real, and I feel like you guys actually give us

  • strength to pull through any issue that we might have because you