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Sophie: Hello and welcome to 6 Minute English. I'm Sophie.
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Neil: And I'm Neil. Here's your coffee, Sophie.
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Sophie: Neil, remember that staff meeting we had yesterday?
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Why did you agree to having decaf coffee in the kitchen when I know you don't like it... and neither do I!
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Neil: I know. It's just that the boss said that decaffeinated coffee
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that's coffee with the caffeine removed – was a good idea, healthier, you know.
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And then everyone else agreed.
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And I... I don't know... I just felt uncomfortable disagreeing with everyone.
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Sophie: Well, it's interesting you should say that, Neil.
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Groupthink is the subject of today's show.
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Groupthink refers to the type of bad decisions we make when we are in a group.
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Decisions that are contrary to – or against – what we really think.
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A psychology experiment conducted in the 1950s showed that a lot of people do exactly that
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they submit to the will of the group.
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Neil: But before we hear more about this, now would be a good time for today's quiz question.
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And I get to ask you, Sophie!
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Sophie: OK. What is it?
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Neil: In which story by Hans Christian Andersen does a young boy dare to tell the truth
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when everyone else goes along with an obvious lie?
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Is it... a) The Red Shoes b) The Snow Queen
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Or c) The Emperor's New Clothes
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Sophie: OK... I think it's c) The Emperor's New Clothes.
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Neil: Well, we'll find out later on in the show if that's right or not.
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Now, the psychologist Solomon Asch is well known for his conformity experiments from the 1950s.
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Can you tell us what "conformity" means please, Sophie?
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Sophie: Conformity means behaviour that is the same as the way most other people behave.
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Asch's main finding was that group pressure can change a person's opinion, of even obvious facts.
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Neil: And what did this Asch test involve?
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Sophie: 123 male participants were shown a card with a line on it, followed by another card with three lines on it.
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The participants were then asked to say which line matched the line on the first card in length.
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The right answer was plain to see, but the participants felt pressurized into saying the wrong answer.
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Neil: Why would they do that?
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Sophie: Because the majority of people taking part in the experiment had been told to give the wrong answer.
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Let's hear Professor Nick Chater's explanation.
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He works at the Warwick Business School here in the UK.
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Nick Chater: By the time it comes to you a whole list of people have said something plainly wrong
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and you are either going to have to fold and say,
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"well, I just agree with them" or you're going to rather uncomfortably say, "well, I think it's one actually".
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And most people, most of the time, tend to fold.
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Neil: Professor Nick Chater. He uses the word fold, which means you give up.
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But, Sophie, if people are uncomfortable about supporting the wrong answer,
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or something they don't believe in, why do they do it?
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Sophie: Because even though we feel uncomfortable going along with
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or agreeing with – something we don't believe,
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we're even more uncomfortable about disagreeing with the group.
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Neil: Well, I didn't realize that people were such sheep. I have a will of steel, Sophie.
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Sophie: Is that right? So, your will of steel – or strong determination
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somehow melted away in the staff meeting yesterday, I suppose?
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Neil: Oh well... of course... yes...
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Sophie: Let's move on and consider briefly how social media encourages groupthink.
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Neil: Yes, there's a real danger with something like, for example, the Twitter – the social networking service.
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Because when an opinion on Twitter starts to "trend", it can take on a momentum of its own,
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and people adopt it simply because it's popular, not because they really believe it.
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Sophie: And momentum means a force that keeps something going once it has started.
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Let's hear from journalist and author, Jon Ronson. He has an interesting opinion about this.
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Jon Ronson: One of the ironies here is that on social media we all like to see ourselves as nonconformists
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but when we all get together in a group
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what we're doing is using our individual nonconformity to create a more conformist world.
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So if somebody steps out of line, all us nonconformists, in this frightened conformist way, tear them apart.
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It's like we're defining the boundaries of normality by tearing apart the people on the outside.
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Sophie: Jon Ronson. Are you a nonconformist then, Neil
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someone who thinks and behaves differently from other people?
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Neil: I'm not the type that Jon Ronson is describing
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one who joins up with other so-called nonconformists to bully people with different views.
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Now remember I asked you earlier: In which story by Hans Christian Andersen
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does a young boy dare to tell the truth when everyone else goes along with an obvious lie?
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Is it... a) The Red Shoes, b) The Snow Queen
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Or c) The Emperor's New Clothes?
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Sophie: I guessed c) The Emperor's New Clothes.
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Neil: And you were right, Sophie!
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The Emperor's New Clothes is a story by Hans Christian Andersen about two weavers
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who promise an emperor a new suit of clothes that is invisible to those who are stupid or incompetent.
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No one dares to say that he doesn't see any suit of clothes until a child cries out,
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"But he isn't wearing anything at all!"
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Sophie: It's a great story – and a lesson to us all. Now can we hear the words we learned today please?
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Neil: They are:
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decaffeinated
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groupthink
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contrary to
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conformity
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fold
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going along with
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will of steel
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momentum
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nonconformist
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Sophie: Well, that's the end of today's 6 Minute English. Don't forget to join us again soon!
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Both: Bye.