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  • everybody welcome to what the flick gameofthrones is done Mad Men is done we

  • move on

  • to the newsroom Witcher it's not the same category why I'm

  • welcome to the dog yeah in any way

  • but it's an interesting show jack we have a a lot that are all the Giro look

  • thank you for Ben maggots jack on the current show last year we we did that

  • highest-rated segments of the current room I

  • when we at we talk about newsroom because for whatever reason even the

  • last season was one of the worst seasons have

  • love dramatic television I've ever seen in my entire life we couldn't

  • stop watching it there was something there was something glorious

  • mixed in with all this just insufferable

  • narcissism comments about the musical numbers that's right with you

  • so here we so here we are now at season 2

  • and I mean will turn it over first although Alonso but as absolute first

  • thing we do let's kill all the lawyers

  • obviously that's room 106 arm II

  • good media obviously on john looked it up whatever

  • um by I thought that this

  • was versatile markedly different

  • and better much better

  • but I fear just enough better to make this a waste of time

  • I a lot it's really a weird like before and I mean the season 1 I've vacillated

  • between moment I thought were just brilliant and ones that I just would

  • kinda roll my eyes at

  • and this was an almost all are rolling up azaleas everywhere for this

  • last night's episode would have been the one to make me go up camp I'm out

  • I'm really yeah I just I don't know why because it's sorta dwelled on all the

  • things that I care the least about like that love triangle Business which I

  • never have found interesting are well

  • by the World Trade no one in america cares about that I

  • everyone in America hates all those people yeah all the actors involved

  • there are interested at this point

  • yeah you know theirs and it was one of those episode lotsa

  • dudgeon you know lots of my principles a movable good just here

  • Agni II really very clean I thought there was less than that

  • yeah because but here we're seeing will the care more about

  • how much the audience loves him and he feels burned today

  • that he's lost a part of the answer seen American Taliban right any seems less

  • aggressive but that was

  • that and that was a big problem for me I've heard American tell been thrown

  • around

  • fairly willy nilly on the left and nobody cared and on this show they make

  • out like who he said this

  • taboo phrase and you know repercussions going all the way to the counter

  • levying this like after a full episode iv: laying it out saying you're the

  • American Taliban or was it

  • a blogger something we savored it also means that you don't really hear it from

  • brian williams also I'm I'm saying those moment but I mean I purpose heard on

  • MSNBC let's say which is for the anodyne love this show

  • that I've that network and in hand and no nobody stop the presses like nobody

  • cared it was just a

  • phrase I was afraid the other night and this show they make it out to be

  • you know I was talking to %uh to Brett who said that it was the same thing on

  • studio 60 where

  • you they made a big deal about this sketch that was gonna get all the

  • trouble and i wanna been called crazy Christians

  • right you know I think studio 60 on the Sunset Strip the first

  • I'll horrible unwatchable were show history television and I watched all 22

  • episodes

  • yeah look be that that's what makes this show little interest email because

  • and in a lil and unrealistic at the same time in a good way in a bad way here's

  • what I mean by that

  • but on MSNBC back like win

  • in the day they would never imagine saying that either

  • okay now they get to a point where they would say but in this show it's not

  • MSNBC and CNN NBC

  • for CNN right you see what I'm saying I graphics packages CNN

  • ok expression that i rly of Vienna a right hand so

  • it's supposed to be a neutral source and that's why how they all act executives

  • actor reporters acted center-right

  • and so yeah I am with Ben a Brian Williams or anderson cooper et cetera

  • merican Taliban

  • there would have been outrage CNN would have been banned from the browser

  • quite but they it's also unrealistic and that's the whole point the show but

  • because Anderson Cooper Brian Williams would never say that

  • in a million years cuz in fact none of them have the principal

  • will mcevoy and that's why the show is in some ways

  • both maddening cuz that's never going to happen I V view

  • and at the same time great because hey that's what we want to happen I mean you

  • guys are the pros to you

  • you can parse this better than i do as far as it now to see the inside baseball

  • the show

  • my takeaway from season one was this was the lost season have Countdown with

  • Keith Olbermann

  • II he was much more baby shoot from the hip saying controversial stuff

  • injecting himself in his opinions into things so

  • will mcevoy saying American Taliban to me was well if Overman said American

  • Taliban

  • nobody would blink because that's the sort of thing he would say all the time

  • weird what what what you're right about over men and and there are many perhaps

  • even O'Brien self who thinks the world mcevoy persona was lifted from over man

  • there is unquestionably a great deal with Keith Olbermann

  • I in that but it is as if Keith Olbermann

  • were at CBS yeah exactly

  • its unquestionable base on over me but whatever you write fiction you take

  • something that might might happen in your personal experience

  • and then you change in and change and change it and change it so

  • its loosely based on him probably about 30 percent remains

  • a seventy percent is a different context that he rode into it I just wanna feel

  • the shock

  • in the moment I love this thing in the context the show so that I

  • to the repercussions make sense and over like becoming an Oreo is gonna lose out

  • on some that shock so long as there's there covering stories there two years

  • old by the time we watch as I think

  • but also one of the reasons I like that interesting device knows it seems is

  • always active on it yeah exactly although some people say that that's why

  • certain comes office so

  • is so the full of himself because yeah of course everybody is in great

  • hindsight two years after the story broke

  • what I like about the reaction to the American Taliban comment is

  • wanna my problems with the will mcevoy character in the first season is

  • he's just to confident too perfect into invincible like

  • he always has that become back nothing bad happens except for drinks being

  • thrown in his face

  • but now is actually facing consequences for what he did and you can see it

  • affecting

  • the way he's reacting to stories later on I think that makes the character much

  • more interesting

  • yeah I agree he became heey he showed some

  • some authentic vulnerability the vulnerability showed last year was the

  • nonsense with the love life where you're like

  • she's you lover she loves you she really three years ago she want you back

  • but don't like to get over record or donor go out with other girls but stop

  • talking about this this is

  • and seeking a religious seminary disagree with Alonso again

  • because hear that at least they took the Mackenzie love thing

  • out at least for the purpose of this episode it was national see finger

  • which seems so unrealistic not only for will McElroy but for Mackenzie sources

  • top competent awesome executive producer should be bumbling instrument over stuff

  • in

  • so at least the first episode in now that's how I felt like I was fifty

  • percent when

  • and I like that they IIIi like think that they showed her being super

  • competent in the mail creation the show all I have to say watching that moment I

  • thought

  • I'm love this when Holly 125 years ago in broadcasting truly

  • this could have all that never happens right by you I have a tape this offer

  • whatever

  • when there's so many things that are wonderfully unrealistic about this rain

  • like if he caught that they had the wrong thing with the I don't know what

  • CNN this

  • allies agree with you on that they were they'd fix it they'd me it personal

  • maybe not right now but there was a long era where they unquestionably what

  • effect that they would never last but said the French stories are charge the

  • one they haven't charged in the death

  • they would switch that and I love that that was a

  • I wish they'd play with the voice more cuz I wanna sounded different but I

  • loved

  • her attempting to her attempting to fix it and I think that

  • that was as dramatic ash a moment

  • I've reaction to criticism from a season

  • that our producer talk like I've made these women

  • bumbling yes and a joke and so I were right off the bat I'm gonna show you

  • low per capita they are greatest cruiser you've ever seen you

  • that was the second half were there when the the board goes down unnecessary and

  • them executive producer knows how to solve a technical issue it's incredibly

  • come we know it is what it is all the technical issues she came up with a

  • solution that use the remaining resources they still had one camera

  • angle in graphics

  • hard wired directly to the monitor like it's not that she knows how to fix the

  • tech problems that she fully understands what they're capable doing with roads

  • may be over you're still a dork

  • I go through a window when the doors close thats

  • yeah out with our seen it the thing that's great and I love the show and

  • executive producer doesn't know how to do it a few

  • anonymous was hacking them or something I got ugly

  • yeah act like it but I totally got their act but it doesn't

  • Lake it just it was a moment have like we did the first one

  • like we got it we don't need the other one right after your

  • yell over it though knows exactly what ever reason for the second are you

  • so this is that he's trying to respond to some other criticism the females

  • basically are just bumbling fools even if they're supposed to be like fully for

  • themselves and well-educated

  • but I love it he couldn't help with the money scare comment its long sabbath

  • that like she is just you know she's the girl mister I can also

  • I couldn't hear one line that those people said to each other I tried re

  • whatever the conversation on this time sorry enough to bruise captioning

  • yeah I without but also the intern comes in and she had that great moment at the

  • end to the season where is like a year what makes America great know that I

  • love that moment

  • but what you doing now she's looking at musicals and stuff like he still can't

  • give women consistent respect the entire episode

  • I thought that I took that is as she's an intern and these are his quirks he

  • loves musical theatre

  • it's like you know if I did enter and I was like I nominate show you the ropes

  • like I would be in that position but you gotta tell me who's yeah the last 30

  • National League Most Valuable Player really 11 reason I think that scene

  • might make sense is that sort of struck me as possible like a Karate Kid sort of

  • thing

  • where it's not that she's researching musicals that you're gonna do five

  • minutes the research and understand all of these facts right it could be like a

  • wax on wax off for a second that

  • that there's going to be a payoff to the manner in which the stranger

  • and of course eggs clearly been set up now the big archive this season is to

  • find out

  • what happened Alison pill's hair I

  • so I'm on the edge of my seat for that one non-computer sonar to hear something

  • is so

  • number one address all the things years all brought up I

  • you know the minor the fixes might have heard it in in that sense because

  • day while I had a great line and on Twitter about this

  • today price for slate he said a can't wait to get everybody in the room and do

  • some hate watch

  • okay it might not work right but if you don't he did now you don't love it and

  • it becomes

  • in the middle then you might be coming deposit thing I'm writing i mean lol

  • Dave while she feel good because he shares my pic I don't care it's rather

  • I they'll my initial fear really almost dead following our conversation 20

  • minutes before we started here was that

  • I liked it much better but I don't know that I liked it enough

  • to where I actually find to be great drama horror drama like Breaking Bad Mad

  • Men and then game Thrones and so many others raising

  • so feel talked me into staying tonight live like that if you remove

  • that they won't remove all the sanctimony but if they remove eighty-two

  • percent %uh sanctimony

  • om and then it just becomes maybe a show that doesn't

  • consistently the lever and and and a and then there in a very dangerous

  • dangerous place but obviously I get full you literally like season 1

  • so here's the thing I E I liked it more than both the average american but also

  • more than the people who serve

  • love hate it like understand that again I was texting you know this still sucks

  • I like to know them that got closer um now I will admit I'm not like a total

  • fanboy like the more you look closely at any part of it the more it doesn't

  • really hold up like

  • I loved like Mac Mac voice for speech was talking about what america used to

  • be like everything

  • but man the more you analyze that speech the more ridiculous it seems

  • like oh you're back in the fifties america had no problems and everything

  • so they're definitely problems with it but it's an exciting show it's got

  • interesting dialogue it's occasionally funny there are little twists and things

  • like that

  • so I do I do enjoy I look forward to know no no and no

  • ok but never cooked before I get into my main criticism over it

  • let's not over local why we're watching in the first place is something great

  • that it does that by not no one else did

  • right it gives us that the fantasy 0

  • principal journalists writing television principled activist

  • attentive right journalist interested in truth not fair

  • right and not interested in partisanship but interested in challenging

  • the government the poor Republican Party is status quo the

  • and and would need be the democratic way remember Womack was a republican

  • and like me I get the sense from the show he doesn't care at all about the

  • democrats nor