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  • Of course, they didn't lose the deal.

  • Stephen A.

  • They took a guy who's going to take this player and got a third and a second, potentially a first.

  • That's a win.

  • I think you're completely wrong about this on on several fronts.

  • Number one.

  • We don't know how good the Philadelphia he was gonna be, because Jalen Hurts only completed 52% of his passes, and we don't know what kind of quarterback he's going to be.

  • He wasn't lights out.

  • He was one and three as a starter.

  • He certainly showed potential.

  • He certainly had big plays.

  • Obviously, he's got wheels.

  • He could move without the ball.

  • He could.

  • He could run the football, and as a result, he galvanized the troops to some degree.

  • But in the end, we don't know what the hell of Philadelphia he was gonna be, which is something we'll get into later.

  • But let's look at the Indianapolis coach.

  • They were a top 10 offense in the top 10 defense.

  • They lose a quarterback and Phil Rivers that threw for over 4000 yards, 24 touchdowns and 11 interceptions.

  • But he was a relatively stationary target, very immobile.

  • He wasn't a threat to run the football against anybody, got rid of the ball relatively quickly.

  • We'll give him credit for that.

  • But basically he was on the tail end of his career, which is proof because he just retired.

  • Having said all of that, What do you have?

  • You have a running game, and John were led by Jonathan Taylor, who's 1000 yard Russia.

  • You've got guys like T Y Hilton and and Pittman, Junior and others, uh, that that are good receivers.

  • You have an offensive line that is considered elite, even in a down year based on injuries, they were still a top seven offensive line in the game, and Carson Wentz is coming from a team where he was sacked 50 times, a team that surrendered 65 sacks.

  • That is the Philadelphia Eagles, albeit to some degree.

  • It was his fault because he held onto the ball too damn long.

  • But clearly anybody will tell you that the Eagles offensive line was highly suspect, which is something even you pointed out before they give up 65 touched sacks last year, 50 at the hands of Carson Wentz, and he is going to a team that surrendered 19 sacks the entire season the entire season.

  • And I think they were one of the top teams in terms of hits allowed on their quarterback because it was like, 32 or less something around that number, this offensive line led by that months, the Quinton Nelson.

  • I mean, this is who they are.

  • They protect, They run, block, they pass, protect.

  • This is what they dio.

  • And so when you look at it from that perspective and you look at the pieces that they have and they were just in the playoffs and then you look at the fact that Carson Wentz is being reunited with Frank Reich, the offensive coordinated in 2017.

  • Last time they were together, which was three years ago.

  • What did he dio?

  • They were 11 and two, and Carson Wentz was an M V P candidate.

  • I look at all of those things and I say the Indianapolis coach one with this because I don't expect Carson wants to go there and stink up the joint because he'll have a better coach.

  • He'll be in a better situation.

  • He'll be surrounded by better players, and I think as a result, he will resurrect his career.

  • Thio anyway.

  • Yes or no answers.

  • Let me ask you some questions.

  • Eyes.

  • The Eagles offensive line.

  • The Colts offensive line?

  • No.

  • Does Frank right?

  • Coach the Eagles does.

  • He coached the Eagles?

  • No, he coaches, right?

  • Right.

  • So, like that situation, right?

  • The Eagles don't have that stuff.

  • So even if you're right, I agree that you could take a flyer on Carson Wentz if you're the cults, because you do have the like.

  • If Carson Wentz can't make it work in Indianapolis, he can't make it work, but they have a reclamation project on their hands.

  • They have a coach who believes he he knows how to do it because he's worked with him before.

  • When he was very good.

  • As you mentioned, they have an offensive line anchored by one of the best guards on the offensive line I've ever seen in Quinton Nelson.

  • There's like a force field around him.

  • When he plays, no one can come within 10 yards of him.

  • Apparently, is the rule like he is unbelievable, and that line is very good.

  • You mentioned the running game.

  • You mentioned a lot of stuff the Eagles don't have those things.

  • The Eagles don't have them.

  • So Carson Wentz doesn't work there.

  • He may not work in Indianapolis, but as you point out, they have a shot.

  • But he doesn't work in Philly.

  • So what did the Eagles wind up getting for a guy who simply doesn't work there.

  • And, by the way, divided the locker room, you know, was talking to the press or certainly whether or not he was leaking, I find hard to believe he wasn't when it would come out.

  • Carson Wentz will demand to trade.

  • He has no interest in being a backup he want.

  • He will want to trade.

  • If he's a backup.

  • The day that hurts is starting for the first time in the NFL, that kind of undermining influence in the locker room in addition to a situation that doesn't work, given the team means the Eagles got to get rid of him.

  • They got to get out from under that deal, right?

  • So the fact that they were able to do it is one thing.

  • The fact that if it works for the Colts, as you suggest it could, or that maybe even that is likely the Eagles were going to get a third and a first.

  • Oh my God, I thought they were going to give up to move out.

  • They get first.

  • Why would they get it?

  • Because it's a conditional second.

  • The condition is met when we were joking about this yesterday.

  • What are the conditions?

  • The condition is, I think, 70 or 75% of the snaps.

  • In other words, if Carson Wentz stays healthy and keeps the starting job, that second turns into a first and S O.

  • And even if it doesn't a third in a second.

  • So Stephen A.

  • Even if they don't draft a quarterback, if they say let's give hurt.

  • So look for a year without a quarterback competition, maybe we'll just bring in ah, veteran starter as to compete with Jalen Hurts.

  • They still have draft capital to draft a quarterback next year if they yeah, but what you're doing is making the case that the Eagles have justified and letting go, of course, and when nobody's disagreeing with that.

  • But when the question is being asked, are the Eagles losers in the winds trade?

  • I'm comparing them to the benefit that the Colts get from it, and if the coats get a starting quarterback who shines and leads them to the playoffs and potentially Super Bowl contention, because they're one of the top teams in the A F.

  • C.

  • Then I consider that a win, Even though the Eagles were absolutely right in getting rid of once because they don't have the personnel that the Indianapolis Colts have.

  • It still doesn't negate the fact that the coach ended up better off because they're gonna be a better team.

  • They're gonna look better.

  • They're gonna be in the postseason, and they're gonna have a quarterback whose age 28 moving forward, because they got the right coach in place to coach him in the right organization led by Chris Ballot toe oversee him.

  • You're betting you answering a question.

  • You're betting on Wentz, and that's possible.

  • Better saying, Holt, I'm betting on the cult.

  • Accept it went really does have, like right and D.

  • Flipper reportedly thought they needed to build him back up from the ground up.

  • So if they can do that in the Colts, if they can't, they're better off with Philip Rivers.

  • There is an important note.

  • There is an important note.

  • I want to mention before we close out here.

  • The Eagles are now on the hook for 33 million.

  • That's the biggest dead cap it after training a quarterback in NFL history.

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Of course, they didn't lose the deal.

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    林宜悉 posted on 2021/02/19
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