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  • -My next guest is an Academy Award-nominated actor

  • who you know from films like

  • "Get Out" and "Black Panther."

  • Last week, he received a Golden Globe nomination

  • for his new film, "Judas and the Black Messiah,"

  • which is in theaters and on HBO Max this Friday.

  • Here is Daniel Kaluuya!

  • Oh, my goodness. Thanks for being here.

  • It is so great to meet you.

  • First of all, you know, I was just talking to Dwayne Johnson,

  • and I hear that you're a big fan.

  • I wish that you were both here in the studio,

  • because you could have met.

  • -No, it's like -- The Rock? Yeah?

  • -Yeah. -The Rock is my guy.

  • Like, sometimes I watch, like -- Once every six months,

  • I watch, like, the funniest moments of

  • The Rock from, like, the WWF days.

  • I just watch these compilations.

  • They're, like -- They're just, like, him going --

  • Talking to someone.

  • I've always wanted to do that in an interview,

  • just speak to someone, and I ask them a question

  • and go, "It doesn't matter what your --"

  • No, just messin'. I've always wanted to do that.

  • I've always wanted to shut someone down like that.

  • -Dude, that's really good.

  • That's a good impression.

  • -Yeah, "It doesn't matter what --"

  • Bro, like, I love The Rock, bro. It's not a game.

  • -But this is a big -- a great week for you to be on our show,

  • because we also have Kenan Thompson

  • coming on this Friday.

  • -Yeah. Yeah.

  • -And I know that he had something to do with

  • your very first project in show business.

  • Do you know what I'm talking about?

  • -Yeah, I wrote my first play when I was 9 years old.

  • I won this competition.

  • I performed at Hampstead Theatre.

  • And it was based on "Kenan and Kel."

  • It was based on "Kenan and Kel."

  • I was obsessed with "Kenan and Kel."

  • -Has Kenan ever heard about this?

  • Have you ever met him?

  • -No. You know what it is? I saw him.

  • It was Halloween, you know, one year --

  • years ago.

  • Probably like over 10 years ago. I was in L.A. randomly.

  • And I was in -- I saw him outside.

  • I saw him outside this club.

  • And I was like, "Oh, my God. Yo, that's Kenan.

  • That's Kenan."

  • And he's like -- My friend's like, "What?"

  • I was like, "Kenan."

  • But then, like, I was dressed as Batman,

  • so I didn't want to go up to him and, like,

  • have to engage him, like, a black Batman,

  • just like this, like, "Yo, like, I'm a fan of your work.

  • Like, you really, really inspire me."

  • And he's like, "What's your name?"

  • "Bruce Wayne. I don't know."

  • -Yeah, walk away, walk away.

  • -Even just chillin' now, I just thought,

  • "No, let me just leave it, man."

  • -Smart.

  • -You know, I'm considerate like that.

  • -Smart man. Smart man's move.

  • Just get out of there and just go, "Yeah, I can' --"

  • -He ain't got time for Batman.

  • He ain't got time for Batman.

  • He's just trying to enjoy Halloween,

  • trying to enjoy the vibe.

  • -Let's talk about "Judas and the Black Messiah."

  • What did you think when they first came to you?

  • Did you know the story?

  • -Yeah, I hadn't heard of the story,

  • but I'd heard of Chairman Fred.

  • I hadn't heard about in the way he was assassinated.

  • I hadn't seen that before.

  • I knew about the Black Panther Party.

  • And then, so, yeah, Ryan and Zinzi Coogler,

  • who are the producers of the film,

  • pulled me to the side and said,

  • "Yo, we really want you to play Chairman Fred

  • in this film that we're building

  • with the incredible Shaka King as director.

  • and amazing LaKeith Stanford being a part of it."

  • And there's a lot of it that really spoke to

  • the intentions and reasons why they were making it.

  • It just really spoke to me.

  • And then, a couple of months later,

  • yeah, after reading the script, I jumped on board.

  • -There's also a really great soundtrack

  • for this movie on the way.

  • It was just announced that there's going to be a

  • Jay-Z/Nipsey Hussle collaboration.

  • -Yeah, no, Jimmy, it's mental. No, that's mental.

  • That's like -- I don't even have words for that.

  • I don't even have words for that.

  • -Yeah, Black Thought is on it, as well.

  • -Just to honor Chairman Fred, as well.

  • You know, it's, like, to honor Chairman Fred.

  • -I ended up Googling all sorts of stuff,

  • 'cause I was like, "Wait.

  • I have to know this story." He was only 21 when he was shot?

  • -Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

  • 21 when he was assassinated, yeah.

  • -And there's a photo of his son.

  • And I just kind of -- It made me, like --

  • He has to be -- The son has to be proud,

  • 'cause he never got to meet his dad, right?

  • -No. Yeah, it was a kind of -- It was a crazy time.

  • I remember I did a screen test,

  • and then, the first time I dressed up as Chairman Fred,

  • and then, when I walked into the studio,

  • the first person I saw was his son.

  • And he never got to meet him.

  • And he gave me this hug,

  • this deep, deep, deep hug that lasted like 10 seconds.

  • There's not really the words to describe what that hug was.

  • But it was invaluable to have Chairman Fred and Mama Akua

  • a part of the process and, like, the family to bless the film

  • and also to enrich the film and to get us closer to the truth.

  • -And you see what he did

  • and the awful -- the awful ending to what happened to him.

  • But what he did for the community

  • and for Chicago and for -- I mean, it's unbelievable.

  • And you never hear these stories.

  • -Yeah, yeah.

  • No, in the face of incredible, like,

  • white fear and white anxiety,

  • with them trying to antagonize the Black Panther Party,

  • they managed to, you know, like, have a free health clinic

  • for the sick, you know?

  • Have a breakfast program to feed kids.

  • Educate kids. Like, covered legal aid.

  • You know, they made the Rainbow Coalition,

  • where they kind of joined different communities --

  • Yeah. Go in different communities

  • and found points of interest even with people

  • that they had conflicts with, but into the sacrifice of

  • love in blackness and love in

  • the black community, you know?

  • What Chairman Fred and the Black Panther Party

  • did at that time was incredible.

  • -Well, well done. I want to show everyone a clip.

  • Here's Daniel Kaluuya in "Judas and the Black Messiah."

  • Take a look.

  • -So, what can I do for you?

  • -Well, I want to know what we can do for each other.

  • -[ Chuckles ]

  • -Y'all doing some great work mobilizing

  • young brothers on the South Side,

  • and we a part of a national organization

  • dedicated to the liberation of oppressed people everywhere.

  • -Whoo-hoo-hoo-hoo-wee!

  • -[ Chuckles ] It's not just talk, brother.

  • Our breakfast program feeds over 2,000 kids a week.

  • -The crowns feed more babies than General Mills.

  • Now, who you think employs all they mommies and daddies?

  • -Well, right on, brother. Right on.

  • The question is, can you do even more?

  • There's over 5,000 crowns in Chicago.

  • Between your manpower

  • and the Panthers' political platform,

  • we can heal this whole city.

  • -Pal, congratulations on this. And thank you for making this.

  • Daniel Kaluuya.

  • You can see "Judas and the Black Messiah"

  • this Friday in theaters and on HBO Max.

-My next guest is an Academy Award-nominated actor

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Daniel Kaluuya’s Batman Costume Stopped Him from Meeting Kenan Thompson

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