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  • This is the thing about Brady, though that's remarkable.

  • I take what you say the other way, and by the way, the football guys say it's harder in football.

  • Basketball guys say it's harder in basketball, but I take it the other way in a one and done tournament.

  • You know the fact that Brady's got seven rings in one and done tournaments in a league that promotes parody unlike any other, because there's, ah, Hard Cat, the fact that he always did it with Belichick the whole time, But then he switches teams and they do it right away, and you talked about the gauntlet of quarterbacks he had to run through.

  • To me, that's more impressive.

  • It means with the chips, the chips are always on the line and you always have to come out on top.

  • So so Brady has that winner thing about him.

  • The aura in a different way than LeBron LeBron had to learn that LeBron.

  • I don't count seven with Cleveland.

  • It's amazing he got from there, but in my and you know.

  • But in Miami he had he had to learn how to do it.

  • Brady was, was had that winner thing where his team always seemed toe win from the moment he hit the league.

  • And that's what LeBron's really up against.

  • Five out of 10 versus seven out of 10.

  • Max.

  • How can you say something so crazy when you look at the effect that LeBron James have on the franchise before Cleveland got him?

  • They were in the lottery every single year.

  • And then when Cleveland drafted LeBron James Ah, year to later, they instantly became a contender.

  • LeBron James leave Cleveland.

  • They go right back into the lottery again.

  • He goes to Miami and helped him win two championships.

  • He leaves Miami.

  • Miami never sniffed the the Eastern Conference finals again until just last year when Jimmy Butler and the Bubble took over.

  • Okay, and then he leaves Cleveland again.

  • It goes to L.

  • A Cleveland back to rock bottom again, where he goes to more pressure.

  • L.

  • A.

  • With Magic, Kareem, all the all time greats.

  • I'm going there not to not to go in and and ride off into the sunset and do space jam to know I'm going there.

  • The hang a banner.

  • I'm going toe more pressure.

  • It's enough that I didn't have pressure on me my entire life.

  • I'm gonna add more pressure and go to the Lakers where they got banners galore.

  • Arena, I'm gonna go there and hang one.

  • What?

  • What?

  • You argue.

  • You just said that the man that Brady it was a separation between one and I'm telling you is not is not a between things.

  • You're mentioning all the things that LeBron has done.

  • But I can point to a finals where he didn't play well like and that cost his team.

  • LeBron just stayed himself in the fourth quarter of that Dallas Siri's.

  • They win.

  • But he didn't.

  • And they lost.

  • By the way, I know I'm splitting.

  • Hairs were comparing two of the greatest of all time.

  • So hold on.

  • Perk.

  • Hold on.

  • So this is what I'm saying.

  • Brady's lost three out of 10 Super Bowls, three out of 10.

  • Two of them were by the skin of his teeth to Eli Manning by the skin of his teeth, and one of them also by this also by the skin of his teeth, where he threw 500 for 500 yards.

  • He does not have any Dallas Siris on his resume.

  • And when you're splitting hairs among the very greatest of all time.

  • You have to start looking at stuff like that.

  • Yeah, and you also have to start looking at stuff like LeBron James was facing one of the one of the greatest teams of all times with Kevin Durant, Steph Curry and Klay Thompson.

  • We also have to looking into that go pull up LeBron numbers when he, you know, you talk about Tom Brady throwing for 500 yards and in the loss in the Super Bowl.

  • Go look at LeBron James Finals numbers when he was going against Golden State.

  • Especially that Bring Kevin loving and look when he lost Kyrie, Irving and Kevin Love that house on the resume, too.

  • But I'm telling you, Max, is Is that when you know you said no to your point?

  • You said that Tom Brady.

  • He goes toe proven that he could.

  • He left Tokyo, He went to the Bucks and he changed.

  • And anyone with a different team, I'm telling you, LeBron James has done the same thing.

  • He's one with Cleveland.

  • He's one with Miami and he's one with the Lakers.

  • The Lakers hadn't been to the playoffs in seven or eight years, almost a decade.

  • He goes there towards the end of his prime and not only gets them to the players, delivers a title.

  • It don't matter.

  • It don't with a D, and by the way, it was in the absence.

  • It was all of a sudden, Golden State didn't have K D or Steph or Clay.

  • The K D.

  • Steph and Clay Warriors with Draymond would have beaten LeBron and a D.

  • But that's not That's not really what I'm talking about.

  • LeBron, twice in his career, entered postseason Siris both times in Miami with a team that should have won but lost, or at least the team on equal footing with the other team and lost.

  • And the difference between football and basketball is the best player in football.

  • It sorry in basketball has a greater sway over the outcome of the game than in football.

  • So when they win, they get tons of credit.

  • But when they lose, they also get tons of blame even more than a quarterback in the NFL.

  • LeBron's teams Hey was on in Miami, talent wise, we're right there with Dallas and right there with San Antonio and they lost both times, so I'm not holding the Golden State stuff against him.

  • I agree with you there.

  • I'm looking at Miami.

  • Okay.

  • Okay.

  • Well, Max, I'm just gonna leave it at this at the end of the day.

  • Like I said at the start of this segment that LeBron James and Tom Brady both have the same code to get in the same penthouse period, period.

  • It ain't nothing else LeBron need to dio sitting at the head of the table who's facing your LeBron.

  • It's not It's not They both eating rib eyes so that they all three eating rib eyes so don't even matter.

  • Max, all I'm telling you is that he don't need Thio.

  • Hey, don't He don't need to do anything to catch up with.

  • Yeah, yeah, I'm right there with you.

  • I'm just saying.

  • Yeah, of course you dio.

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