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  • Stephen I Your boy Aaron Rodgers.

  • We need a quarterback with the most to lose.

  • I think so.

  • I think so, because I think that, you know, to me, and Rogers is the greatest quarterback I've ever seen.

  • From a talent perspective, he's the greatest ever.

  • I just I just believe that the Dan Marino's you know, I keep throwing up names and Max like a damn thoughts.

  • I loved Dan Faults.

  • I loved Air Coryell with with him and Charlie joining Kellen Winslow Sr.

  • Chuck Muncie coming out about I usedto love watching San Diego through the so the football with Dan thoughts when they were in San Diego.

  • Now, when they went on the road in Cincinnati and, you know, and and and God awful temperatures and all of that stuff, I felt bad for them.

  • You can't come from Southern California to go to Cincinnati for F C championship.

  • Just can't do it's not.

  • It's not fair to human beings.

  • I mean, it's it's frostbite, all that stuff.

  • But here's the deal.

  • You can pick any quarterback.

  • I was lifelong Steelers fan Terry Bradshaw, Lynn Swann, John Star, where Franco Harris, Rocky, blind accrue mean Joe Greene, and L.

  • C Greenwood of those boys, and it didn't matter.

  • Aaron Rodgers is the greatest quarterback from a talent perspective that I've ever seen.

  • Doesn't have the greatest resume to go to Tom Brady, but he's the greatest quarterback that I've ever seen, and to me to be in this postseason, to be knocking at the door step of a Super Bowl berth again.

  • You haven't been back since.

  • You want it all in 2000 and 10, your age.

  • 37 Now, 48 touchdowns and five interceptions of the regular season.

  • You are about to win the league MVP.

  • You are going up against Tom Brady.

  • It's not just about you needing to win.

  • It's about who you lose, too, and it losing the Tom Brady at 43 years of age.

  • Switching conferences don't have Bill Belichick anymore, etcetera, and you go out there and you lose to him.

  • To me, that would be a very, very big deal.

  • I'm looking at my homes and you look at Josh Allen and you look at Tom Brady.

  • I mean, Tom Brady's got six rings, non trips to the Super Bowl, you know, you made it this far without Bill Belichick etcetera.

  • To me, Aaron Rodgers, The way that they've looked, the way they looked last week, the way they looked for the most part throughout this regular season.

  • With the exception of going up against Tampa Bay in Tampa Bay, you look at Aaron Rodgers and the way he has bald.

  • If suddenly you wet the bed in the NFC championship game, it's just it would be a bad look to me on Guy, and I just looked at him.

  • Trump this week, this week at Lambeau, first time NFC championship game number since Brett Farve.

  • This game right here this weekend.

  • Just these quarterbacks.

  • I think Aaron Rodgers is the one with the most to lose out of all of them.

  • Well, I would agree if we were living in limiting it to that game.

  • If it was Rodgers or Brady.

  • I say Rogers has more to lose, and Brady probably has the most to gain out of everybody at this point, because if he if he gets to the Super Bowl getting by Aaron Rodgers this time without Belichick, it's an amazing actual enhancement of his already best ever legacy.

  • I don't think Rogers has the most to lose.

  • Though he also has something to gain, he can enhance his legacy.

  • To Rogers, talent is so absurd that if he winds up with two rings or gets by Brady, finally when, When?

  • When you know when.

  • Okay, there on comparable teams.

  • If anything, probably the Bucks have a little more talent, but but Rodgers has more continuity there on comparable teams.

  • Okay, Brady, you're not just coming out of the A F C.

  • What would happen if you have to chase Rogers?

  • Rogers has something to gain their see him went head to head with Brady.

  • We're both old and I beat him, the guy with the most to lose his Patrick Mahomes because you think Rogers is number one, ever from a talent perspective.

  • And I would say he waas until I saw Patrick Mahomes and it is close.

  • But I think Patrick Mahomes is number one from a talent perspective and one thing we can agree on.

  • I bet you everyone will agree on this combination of talent and situation.

  • Mahomes, his number one all time talent and situation, Joe Montana and Tom Brady.

  • They had a lot of early success, but you can look and say, As great as they are, that's decision making.

  • It's not like they had the wheels or, you know, the most accurate passers or biggest arms ever.

  • It wasn't like when you first saw Brett Farve.

  • Oh my God, they were situations.

  • Great quarterbacks in great situations, but talent.

  • No one was thinking.

  • Number one.

  • Peyton Manning had a slower start.

  • Let's be honest, Aaron Rodgers wasn't in the best situation all those years.

  • Neither was Brett Farve.

  • Patrick Mahomes comes in with the kind of talent that since day one you go.

  • That guy might might be.

  • He's in the conversation.

  • Most talented do whatever and in a situation with receivers everywhere in a great coach Stephen A.

  • Do you realize he started for three years?

  • This is his third consecutive championship game he's played in.

  • You want an M V P off a Super Bowl?

  • M v P.

  • Molly?

  • What I'm saying is he No one's ever started his career like this ever.

  • He's on pace to be the best and the greatest.

  • I'm with you, but he's not healthy.

  • Well, that's why I feel like this year is a little bit of an outsider he deserves an excuse if he plays.

  • If he plays.

  • Fair enough, but I got one better for both of y'all who has ever started out their career with the weapons that Patrick Mahomes has had available to situation, there is no one.

  • Now listen, we can look at Mark super duper Mark Clayton with Dan Marino.

  • You know, we could look at that.

  • I guess that's a that's a comparison or what have you.

  • But what I would say to you is that when you look at Tyreek Hill, Sammy Watkins, Travis Kelsey, McColl Hardman, Andy Reid and the Re Eric the Enemy, nobody has had that available to them.

  • So to me, without throwing any kind of shade on Patrick Mahomes, because he is great and there's a level of greatness that you just can't do.

  • Not when we talk about the argument off who's the greatest hits ceiling compared to Amma?

  • Roger Ceiling Aaron Rodgers has never had that.

  • We just lamented a few months ago how Aaron Rodgers threw passes to Tavon Austin, and it was the first time in Aaron Rodgers.

  • They highlighted how Drew Brees had thrown over 600 passes to a first round wide receiver and Tom Brady had thrown.

  • Or Drew Brees 800 Tom Brady over 600.

  • And all of these quarterbacks, Aaron Rodgers, throwing a ball to a first round pick at the wide receiver spot, had to pass attempts in his career.

  • Come on, even if they drafted a quarterback, that was his help.

  • That's what I'm just saying, what I'm saying.

  • If you take a graduation, What?

  • I understand the situation.

  • But in the end, Max, even though you're talking about situation, I'm saying to you when we talk about Rogers, the quarterback with the most to lose, I'm just looking at it.

  • From the standpoint of the kind of things is gonna be said about the way you are so hyperbolic about Patrick Mahomes.

  • Listen, that ain't going nowhere If he loses.

Stephen I Your boy Aaron Rodgers.

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    林宜悉 posted on 2021/01/21
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