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♪♪♪ >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY,
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WE'RE BACK WITH SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS.
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ER YOU SAID IN SEPTEMBER, YOU WARNED AS WE COUNT EVERY VOTE,
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I'VE THING POSSIBLE MUST BE DONE TO PREVENT CHAOS, DISINFORMATION
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AND, YES, EVEN VIOLENCE.
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DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE AT THIS POINT WHY, AS YOU SAY, THIS
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TREMENDOUS FAILURE HAPPENED?
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BECAUSE -- AND CHRISTOPHER WRAY SAID THE MOST DANGEROUS DOMESTIC
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TERRORIST THREAT RIGHT NOW IS FROM WHITE SUPREMACIST GROUPS IN
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THIS COUNTRY.
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SO IT'S NOT LIKE PEOPLE WEREN'T WARNED.
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>> NO, THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
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ALL I CAN TELL YOU -- YOU KNOW, WE'RE HEARING DIFFERENT STORIES
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FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE -- EITHER IT WAS A GO DESK AND HORRIFIC
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FAILURE TO UNDERSTAND AND TO ANTICIPATE WHAT WAS HAPPENING --
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I SPOKE TO A VERY HIGHER-UP GUY WHILE I WAS IN LOCKDOWN, AND HIS
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RESPONSE WAS, WELL, WE JUST DIDN'T ANTICIPATE THIS.
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REALLY?
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REALLY?
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WITH ALL OF YOUR INTELLIGENCE OPERATIONS, YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT
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WAS GOING ONLINE, YOU DIDN'T KNOW THE THREAT TO THE CAPITOL,
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YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS EGGING THESE
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PEOPLE ON?
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YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT, REALLY?
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SO A TREMENDOUS FAILURE OF LEADERSHIP, WHICH WILL BE
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INVESTIGATED, AND WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN.
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>> Stephen: ALEXANDER HAMILTON WROTE IN FEDERALIST 27, THE HOPE
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OF IMPUNITY IS A STRONG INCITEMENT TO SEDITION.
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THE DREAD OF PUNISHMENT A PROPORTIONATELY STRONG
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DISCOURAGEMENT TO IT.
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ISN'T IT IMPORTANT THAT JUSTICE BE SWIFT AND THE HAMMER BE HARD?
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>> WELL, THAT'S AMONG OTHER REASONS WHY THE HOUSE, IN RATHER
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QUICK TIME, IMPEACHED TRUMP AND WHY HE MUST BE CONVICTED.
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YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ASK ME, THEY SAY, WHAT IS THE SENSE OF
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IMPEACHING A GUY WHO HAS A WEEK LEFT IN HIS TERM, AND THERE'S A
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LOT OF SENSE TO IT, AND THE SENSE IS THAT THIS PRESIDENT AND
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ANYBODY ELSE WHO ENTERS THE OVAL OFFICE MUST UNDERSTAND THAT IF
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YOU INCITE INSURRECTION AGAINST YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT FOR YOUR OWN
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CHIEF POLITICAL PURPOSES, THAT WILL BE SEVERELY PUNISHED.
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>> Stephen: I TRUST THAT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT AND THE
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F.B.I. IS TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY AND WILL USE ALL OF THE POWER AT
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THEIR COMMAND TO BRING THE PEOPLE WHO DID THIS TO JUSTICE,
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AND CERTAINLY NOTHING THEY DID WAS DEFENSIBLE, BUT WHAT ABOUT
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PEOPLE LIKE JOSH HAWLEY AND TED CRUZ?
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WHAT ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE MOE BROOKS, ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO
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INCITED THIS CROWD, AS I SAID AND YOU AGREED, WITH THE BIG
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LIE?
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I DON'T THINK THAT'S A CONTROVERSIAL THING THAT THEY
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INSPIRED THESE PEOPLE.
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WHAT CAN BE DONE SO THAT NO GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL EVER DOES
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THIS AGAIN AND, CERTAINLY, NO CROWD EVER DOES THIS AGAIN?
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DOESN'T THERE HAVE -- SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE TO THEM, WHAT CAN
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THE SENATE DO?
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>> I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.
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WHAT HAS CONCERNED ME THE MOST, AND, AGAIN, I'M HEARING
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ALLEGATIONS ON THESE HAVE TO BE INVESTIGATED, IS THAT THERE WERE
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SOME MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE WHO ACTUALLY ESCORTED PEOPLE WHO
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TURNED OUT TO BE RIOTERS THE DAY BEFORE THROUGH THE CAPITOL
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PREMISES.
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NOW, WHAT THE HELL THAT'S ABOUT, WE HAVE TO FIND OUT.
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>> Stephen: EVEN THOUGH THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO VISITORS, NO
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TOURS OF THE CAPITOL SINCE MARCH.
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>> THAT'S RIGHT.
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>> Stephen: NOT EVEN MEMBERS ARE REALLY ALLOWED TO BRING ANY
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PEOPLE IN FOR A TOUR.
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>> THAT'S RIGHT.
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IF THAT ALLEGATION IS TRUE, STEPHEN, IF IT'S TRUE, THAT TELL
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US SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DEALT WITH.
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>> Stephen: WHAT ABOUT THE SENATORS?
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I KNOW YOU'RE THE WORLD'S MOST DELIBERATIVE BODY BUT THERE HAS
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TO BE A LIMIT WHERE YOU HAVE TO ASK SHOULD THIS PERSON BE IN
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HERE WITH US IF THEY AREN'T WILLING TO ACCEPT THE RESULTS OF
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THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHEN THEY VOTE?
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>> ON THE ONE HAND YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT EXPELLING
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PEOPLE, THEY WERE ELECTED BY CONSTITUENTS.
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TRUST ME, THIS WILL BE AN ISSUE.
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HOW WE DEAL WITH THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL BE LOOKED AT
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VERY, VERY HARD.
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>> Stephen: CAN YOU AT LEAST MAKE TED CRUZ OR JOSH HAWLEY
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WEAR A STUPID HAT THAT SAYS SEDITIONIST ON TOP?
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THEY HAVE TO FACE THE CORNER.
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THERE HAS TO BE A STAIN THAT DOESN'T LEAVE THEM AS A JUDGMENT
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OF HISTORY.
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>> AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE CRISIS IS YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT
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WHO GAVE US A BIG, BIG LIE THAT HE WON THE ELECTION BY A LAND
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SLIDE WHEN, IN FACT, HE LOST, AND THEN YOU HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF
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PEOPLE, NOT JUST CRUZ AND HAWLEY, WHO TID NOT SAY WHAT IS
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SIMPLY THE TRUTH, HEY, PEOPLE RUN IN ELECTIONS AND LOSE.
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I'VE WON, SOMETIMES YOU WIN.
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H LOST THE ELECTION, PERIOD, END OF DISCUSSION, AND WE HAD
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VERY VERY VERY FEW SENATORS WHO MADE THAT STATEMENT.
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>> Stephen: ONCE THE NEWEST SNRRTS ARE SWORN?
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-- SENATORS ARE SWORN IN, THE DEMOCRATS, YOU CONFERENCING WITH
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THEM, WILL HAVE CONTROL OF THE SENATE, AND YOU WILL BE THE NEW
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CHAIR OF THE BUDGET COMMITTEE.
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THAT'S YOUR FIRST PRIORITY?
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>> MY FIRST PRIORITY IS TO WORK ON A COMPREHENSIVE
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RECONCILIATION BILL, WITHOUT GETTING INTO ALL THE RULES OF
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THE SENATE.
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THIS IS A MEANS BY WHICH WE CAN PASS VERY SIGNIFICANT
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LEGISLATION WITH A MAJORITY, WITH 51 VOTES AND NOT WITH 60.
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AND I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT RECONCILIATION BILL AS BOLD AND
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AGGRESSIVE AS I POSSIBLY CAN.
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WE FACE MORE CRISES TODAY THAN ANYTIME IN THE MODERN HISTORY OF
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THIS COUNTRY.
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IT'S NOT JUST THE TERRIBLE PANDEMIC WHICH HAS CLAIMED
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ALMOST 400,000 LIVES, IT IS MASSIVE UNEMPLOYMENT, MILLIONS
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OF PEOPLE UNABLE TO FEED THEIR KIDS, PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING EIC
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EVICTED, PEOPLE WHO CAN'T GO TO THE DOCTOR BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO
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HEALTHCARE.
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WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS RESPOND TO THE PAIN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE
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FEELING, WHICH IS ENORMOUS RIGHT NOW.
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PEOPLE ARE LOSING FAITH IN GOVERNMENT.
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WE HAVE TO RESTORE THE FAITH BY SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT?
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WE HEAR YOUR PAIN AND WE'RE GOING TO RESPOND IN A BOLD
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MANNER AND, IN ADDITION TO THAT, PROBABLY IN A SECOND
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RECONCILIATION BILL, WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THE SYSTEMIC,
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LONG-TERM, ONGOING PROBLEMS FACING THIS COUNTRY.
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PEOPLE CAN'T LIVE ON $10 AN HOUR.
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WE'VE GOT TO RAISE THE MINIMUM-WAGE TO A LIVING WAGE.
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INSANE WE ARE THE ONLY MAJOR COUNTRY ON EARTH NOT TO HAVE
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GUARANTEED HEALTHCARE TO ALL, OR HAVE PAID FAMILY AND MEDICAL
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LEAVE.
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WE'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH CLIMATE CHANGE, WITH COUNTRIES AROUND
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THE WORLD, OR WE'RE NOT LEAVING MUCH TO OUR KIDS OR
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GRANDCHILDREN.
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IN OTHER WORDS, AT THIS PARTICULAR MOMENT IN HISTORY,
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CONGRESS WILL HAVE TO RISE UP AND BE EXTREMELY BOLD IN
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ADDRESSING THE MAJOR CRISES FACING WORKING FAMILIES AND THE
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MIDDLE CLASS AND I INTEND TO BE ACTIVE IN THAT PROCESS.
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>> Stephen: PRESIDENT-ELECT BIDEN RELEASED
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THE RESCUE PLAN.
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CAN YOU GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT IT CONTAINS?
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> IT'S A SERIOUS START.
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AMONG OTHER THINGS, IN LOOKING AGENT THE PANDEMIC, IT SAYS WE
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NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE ALL OF THE VACCINE PRODUCTION WE
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POSSIBLY CAN TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THE VACCINES OUT AROUND
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THE COUNTRY.
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WE NEED A LOT BETTER JOB DISTRIBUTING THOSE VACCINES,
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GETTING THE ARMS INTO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
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WE ARE NOT DOING THAT RIGHT NOW.
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BIDEN'S PLAN ALSO UNDERSTANDS THAT THE ECONOMY IS IN SHAMBLES
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AND THAT WE NEED EMERGENCY RELIEF FOR WORKING FAMILIES.
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HE IS SUPPORTIVE OF ANOTHER $1,400 ON TOP OF THE $600 WE
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PROVPROVIDED IN THE LAST BILL FO WORKING CLASS ADULTS AND THEIR
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KIDS, EXTENDING UNEMPLOYMENT, MAKING SURE THAT SMALL
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BUSINESSES ARE ABLE TO SURVIVE.
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SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE A LOT OF HARD LOOK
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AT THE AT THE TAILS, BUT IT IS A VERY GOOD START IN ADDRESSING
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THE PANDEMIC CRISIS AND THE ECONOMIC CRISIS WE NOW FACE.
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>> Stephen: IF I COULD MAKE JUST TWO SUGGESTIONS, AND YOU
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CAN SAY YOU GO TO HELL, STEPHEN COLBERT, BUT MY TWO SUGGESTIONS
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WOULD BE THIS, ONE, PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT VOTING RIGHTS
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BECAUSE THERE IS ONE PARTY IN THIS COUNTRY WHO WANTS TO GET
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INTO OFFICE AND PULL UP THE LADDER BEHIND THEM, AND IT IS
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VERY IMPORTANT THAT WHATEVER GAINS YOU MAKE ARE MAINTAINED BY
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FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS OR TOSSED OUT BY FREE AND FAIR
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ELECTIONS, WHATEVER.
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THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DECIDE.
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BUT IF OUR VOTING RIGHTS ARE NOT PROTECTED -- AND I DON'T KNOW
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WHAT CAN BE DONE ON A FEDERAL LEVEL --
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>> A LOT CAN BE DONE, STEPHEN.
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YOUR POINT IS WELL TAKEN.
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LOOK, AMONG THE MANY OTHER CRISES WE'RE FACING NOW,
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OBVIOUSLY LED BY TRUMP, THERE IS A CHALLENGE, A FIERCE EFFORT TO
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UNDERSTOOD MINE AMERICAN DEMOCRACY AND THE RESPONSE HAS
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GOT TO BE THAT WE'RE CREATING A MORE VIBRANT DEMOCRACY WHICH
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MEANS EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO VOTE.
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WE WON'T HAVE TO WAIT IN LINE, DEAL WITH VOTER SUPPRESSION.
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WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH CITIZENS UNITED AND THE ABILITY OF
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BILLIONAIRES TO BUY ELECTIONS.
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BUT HOW WE CREATE A SITUATION WHERE ALL THE PEOPLE WHO
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UNDERSTAND THE POLITICAL PROCESS CAN VOTE AS EASILY AS POSSIBLE
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AND THOSE ARE FREE AND FAIR ELECTIONS, ABSOLUTELY A VERY
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HIGH PRIORITY.
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>> Stephen: BACK WITH MORE SENATOR BERNIE SANDERS.
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