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  • ♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: WELCOME BACK TO

  • A LIVE "LATE SHOW,"" EVERYBODY.

  • JOINING ME NOW IS THE SENIOR SENATOR FROM THE STATE OF

  • MINNESOTA AND A FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE HERSELF,

  • PLEASE WELCOME SENATOR AMY KLOBUCHAR.

  • SENATOR, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE ON SUCH A TROUBLING DAY.

  • I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THE TIME.

  • I HOPE THAT YOU AND YOUR STAFF ARE FINE.

  • IS EVERYONE OKAY?

  • >> THEY'RE FINE.

  • I'M JUST MOSTLY WORRIED ABOUT OUR COUNTRY AND WHAT THEY SAW

  • TODAY, AND THAT'S WHAT WAS I THINK ON EVERYONE'S MIND.

  • THAT'S WHY IT WAS SO IMPORTANT THAT AFTER THIS ANGRY MOB

  • INVADED THE CAPITOL-- BY THE WAY, I'M SITTING IN THE

  • PRESIDENT'S ROOM.

  • WHERE IN THE PAST PRESIDENTS WOULD HAVE CORDIAL MEETINGS WITH

  • LEADERS OF CONGRESS, WHERE A NEW PRESIDENT WOULD SIGN THE

  • DOCUMENTS WHEN HE GOT SWORN IN.

  • AND TO THINK THAT THIS PRESIDENT INCITED THIS MOB TO COME IN THIS

  • BUILDING.

  • AND I'M LITERALLY SITTING A FEW YARDS AWAY FROM WHERE THEY

  • STORMED INTO THE CAPITOL.

  • AND THE IMPORTANT THING FOR US TONIGHT, FOR BOTH ACTUALLY

  • DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN LEADERS, WAS THAT WE RETURNED TO

  • OUR DESKS, AND WE GET THE JOB DONE.

  • AND WE JUST VOTED, JUST VOTED 93 VOTES AGAINST THE OBJECTIONS TO

  • THE CERTIFIED STATE ELECTION IN ARIZONA, WHICH IS WHAT

  • INSTIGATED ALL OF THIS, WITH 93 SENATORS DECLARING JOE BIDEN WON

  • THAT ELECTION.

  • >> Stephen: I-- I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT MOMENT WAS THE LAST

  • TIME I SAW YOU ON CAMERA BEFORE ANY OF THIS HAPPENED WAS YOU

  • READING THE...

  • COMPLAINT ABOUT THE ARIZONA ELECTION.

  • AND THEN THE CHAMBERS WENT TO THEIR SEPARATE HOUSES, THE

  • SENATE AND THE HOUSE.

  • WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THE ACTUAL BREACHING OF THE CAPITOL

  • HAPPENED?

  • AND CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH HOW YOU KNEW THAT YOU WERE SUPPOSED

  • TO LEAVE?

  • HOW WERE ALL OF YOU INFORMED WHAT WAS GOING ON?

  • >> SO I'M THE HIGHEST RANKING DEMOCRAT ON THE RULES COMMITTEE,

  • SO I HAD ACTUALLY JUST SPOKEN AND MADE MY CASE AGAINST SENATOR

  • CRUZ, TAKING HIM ON.

  • HE HAD SPOKEN, ONE OR TWO MORE SENATORS SPOKE.

  • AND ALL OF A SUDDEN IN THE MIDDLE OF SENATOR LANGFORD'S

  • TEACH THEY SAID THE CAPITOL HAD BEEN BREACHED AND WE NEEDED TO

  • STAY IN PLACE.

  • SO WE WAITED IN THE SENATE CHAMBER FOR A WHILE.

  • PEOPLE WERE MILLING AROUND.

  • PEOPLE WERE FOLLOWING THE NEWS.

  • AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, BELIEVING WE WERE SAFE IN THE

  • SENATE CHAMBER, ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY ANNOUNCED THAT WE WEREN'T,

  • AND WE WERE QUICKLY TAKEN TO ANOTHER ROOM IN THE OFFICE

  • COMPLEX WHERE WE ACTUALLY SAT TOGETHER FOR THE ENTIRE DAY,

  • DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS AND OUR STAFF, AS WE AWAITED THE

  • CLEARING OF THE SENATE CHAMBER.

  • AND THERE WAS A LOT OF, I WILL TELL YOU, MAJOR DISCUSSIONS

  • BETWEEN PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON AND WHAT THIS

  • PRESIDENT HAS DONE.

  • >> Stephen: WERE YOU WATCHING THIS UNFOLD ON TV?

  • WERE YOU SEEING THE PEOPLE GOING INTO YOUR CHAMBER, SEEING THE

  • PEOPLE-- SOMEONE STANDING UP THERE ACTUALLY AT THE PRESIDENT

  • OF THE SENATE'S SEAT, PEOPLE WITH THEIR FEET UP ON NANCY

  • PELOSI'S DESK?

  • WHAT WAS GOING THROUGH YOUR MIND AND YOUR HEART AS YOU SAW THIS--

  • THIS MOB RUNNING RAMPANT?

  • >> I ACTUALLY ASKED THAT WE TURN THE TVs ON IN THE ROOM THAT WE

  • WERE IN, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO REALIZE

  • WHAT'S GOING ON HERE, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE GONE

  • ALONG WITH THIS PRESIDENT.

  • AND WHAT YOU FEEL WHEN YOU SEE THAT IS YOU THINK HE HAS INCITED

  • THIS.

  • THIS ISN'T JUST SOME TWEET HE SENDS OUT IN THE MORNING FOR FUN

  • THAT'S A JOKE "OH, YOU DON'T BELIEVE HIM," THAT SOME PEOPLE

  • SAY.

  • HE IS LITERALLY TELLING HIS PEOPLE TO MARCH DOWN THE MALL,

  • TO GO TO THE CAPITOL, AND HE URGED THEM ON.

  • >> Stephen: TELL ME MORE ABOUT THE CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN THE

  • SENATORS AND THE PEOPLE IN THEIR OWN OFFICES.

  • WHAT WERE YOU SAYING TO EACH OTHER ABOUT THAT MOMENT?

  • >> WELL, I THINK ALL OF US CHERISH THIS DEMOCRACY, AND

  • THERE WERE A LOT OF HEARTFELT CONVERSATIONS ABOUT "ARE YOU

  • GOING TO CONTINUE THIS QUEST TO OBJECT TO THE DULY ELECTED

  • ELECTORS THAT CAME OUT OF STATE-CERTIFIED ELECTIONS, WHERE

  • OVER 80 JUDGES HAVE LITERALLY SAID, 'NO, THESE CLAIMS ARE

  • BASELESS.

  • THEY'RE RECKLESS.

  • THEY'RE NOT BASED ON THE CONSTITUTION' SO WHY ARE YOU

  • FOLLOWING ALONG?" IT'S MY HOPE A NUMBER OF THOSE

  • SENATORS ACTUALLY CHANGED THEIR VOTE.

  • AND MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE THEY FELT VIOLATED.

  • OUR DEMOCRACY WAS VIOLATED.

  • THOSE PEOPLE WERE SITTING IN OUR CHAIRS, WHEN THEY WERE STANDING

  • AT THE DAIS OF THE U.S. SENATE WHERE WE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE

  • CONDUCTING THE NATION'S BUSINESS.

  • BUT A NUMBER OF THEM CHANGED THEIR VOTE.

  • SO THOSE WERE THE KINDS OF DISCUSSIONS WE WERE HAVING.

  • >> Stephen: DOES IT UPSET YOU AT ALL THAT THEY DIDN'T CHANGE

  • THEIR VOTES UNTIL THE CHICKENS CAME HOME TO ROOST IN THEIR OWN

  • HOME, EVEN THOUGH THEY KNEW THAT THEY WERE STIRRING UP TROUBLE

  • EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTRY BY PROMULGATING THIS LIE?

  • >> OF COURSE IT DOES.

  • BUT I FIGURED MY JOB TODAY WAS TO TRY TO BRING AS MANY PEOPLE

  • WITH ME AND WITH OUR SIDE AS WE COULD AND TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT

  • WOULD GIVE THEM THAT SPACE.

  • AND THE REASON I DID IT IS BECAUSE-- I MADE THIS CASE TO

  • OUR CAUCUS-- I WANT JOE AND KAMALA TO COME IN WITH

  • BIPARTISAN SUPPORT.

  • I WANT TO LEAVE WHAT JOE BIDEN CALLED THE GRIM ERA OF

  • DEMONIZATION BEHIND US AND ACTUALLY GET THINGS DONE.

  • WE HAVE MOUNTING BODY BAGS IN THIS COUNTRY.

  • WE HAVE PEOPLE WITH EMPTY CHAIRS AT THE TABLE.

  • WE'VE GOT KIDS THAT AREN'T GOING TO SCHOOL.

  • WE'VE GOT PEOPLE OUT OF WORK.

  • WE'VE GOT PEOPLE THAT HAVEN'T GOTTEN A VACCINE BECAUSE THIS

  • PRESIDENT HAS FAILED TO DISTRIBUTE IT.

  • AND SO THIS IDEA THAT WE WOULD BE WASTING OUR TIME AND THEN TO

  • ADD TO ALL THAT, WE HAVE A PRESIDENT INCITING A MOB IS

  • AGAINST NOT JUST THE RULE OF LAW AND OUR DEMOCRACY BUT IT'S

  • AGAINST WHAT EVERY CITIZEN NEEDS RIGHT NOW IN OUR COUNTRY.

  • SO MY VIEW WAS THE MORE WE CAN BRING ON RIGHT NOW, AS MAD AS I

  • AM AT THEM-- AND I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO MISTAKE THIS THAT I

  • FORGIVE THEM-- I THINK THAT WHAT THEY DID WAS ATROCIOUS.

  • BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD AS A NATION.

  • >> Stephen: I-- I AGREE.

  • WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD AS A NATION.

  • BUT...

  • I SAW YOU, ALL THE SENATORS GO BACK INTO THE CHAMBER.

  • >> AND SAW THE DEBATE.

  • AND WHILE THERE WAS SOME PASSION TO THAT DEBATE, IT LOOKED

  • ALARMINGLY NORMAL TO ME.

  • AND I-- I KNOW YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE ANGRY.

  • I KNOW YOU'RE FROM MINNESOTA, SO IT'S HARD TO TELL WHEN PEOPLE

  • ARE ANGRY FROM THERE, BUT AMERICA IS ANGRY.

  • AMERICA IS DEEPLY SHAKEN AND DISTURBED BY WHAT THEY JUST SAW

  • HOW, AS THE PARTY THAT IS NOW IN CONTROL OF THE HOUSE AND THE

  • SENATE AND THE WHITE HOUSE, SHOULDN'T THERE BE CONSEQUENCES,

  • NOT ONLY FOR THE PEOPLE-- >> OF COURSE!

  • >> Stephen: THE PEOPLE WHO WALKED IN AND DID THIS, THEIR

  • FACES ARE ON CAMERA AND THEIR CRIMES ARE DOCUMENTED.

  • I MEAN THE PEOPLE WHO PROMULGATED THE LIE, SHOULD

  • THERE NOT BE CONSEQUENCES SO SEVERE THAT NO ONE WILL EVER

  • THINK TO TO MEMENT AN INSURRECTION AGAINST THIS

  • GOVERNMENT AGAIN WITHOUT SHUDDERING ABOUT THE PROSPECT OF

  • WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THEM.

  • >> OF COURSE WE SHOULD.

  • I'M A FORMER PROSECUTOR.

  • THIS IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT STORY, STEPHEN.

  • EVERY ONE OF THESE PEOPLE SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE.

  • EVERYONE OF THEM SHOULD GO TO JAIL.

  • THEY LITERALLY INVADED THE CAPITOL --

  • >> Stephen: BUT I HOPE YOU'RE INCLUDING-- I HOPE YOU'RE

  • INCLUDING JOSH HAWLEY.

  • YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE TED CRUZ.

  • YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE...

  • MARSHA BLACKBURN.

  • BECAUSE THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY KNOW BETTER.

  • THAT CROWD IS IGNORANT.

  • THOSE PEOPLE IN THAT SENATE CHAMBER ARE ACTUALLY THE SINNERS

  • HERE.

  • >> AND LET'S START WITH THE ORIGINAL SINNER AND THE ONE THAT

  • REALLY INCITED THIS MOB WHICH IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

  • STATES.

  • BECAUSE THIS IS SOMEONE THAT JUST LOST HIS ELECTION AND

  • REFUSES TO BELIEVE IT.

  • AND HE HAS DEMONIZED EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT HAS BEEN

  • WILLING TO STAND IN HIS WAY OR STAND UP AGAINST HIM.

  • SO THERE ARE SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS RIGHT NOW ABOUT WHAT SHOULD

  • HAPPEN TO THIS PRESIDENT, EVEN THOUGH HE WILL LEAVE OFFICE ON

  • JANUARY 20.

  • >> Stephen: SHOULD HE BE ALLOWED TO SERVE OUT THE REST OF

  • HIS TERM, LAST 14 DAYS?

  • SHOULD THE 25th AMENDMENT BE INVOKED?

  • SHOULD HE BE IMPEACHED SO HE CAN NEVER RUN AGAIN.

  • >> HE'S THE PROBLEM, NOT ONLY DID HE INCITE IT.

  • HE DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO STOP IT.

  • HE COULD HAVE STOP IT, AND HE DIDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE THESE

  • PEOPLE WERE LISTENING TO HIM.

  • THERE WERE INTERVIEWS ALL DAY WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SAYING

  • THAT TO THE MEDIA.

  • I WOULD CALL THAT EXHIBIT "A."

  • SO, FIRST OF ALL, TO USE THE 25th AMENDMENT YOU HAVE TO

  • GET THE MAJORITY OF THE CABINET AND THE VICE PRESIDENT.

  • LET'S SEE IF THEY ARE WILLING TO STAND UP TO HIM.

  • IMPEACHMENT, I'VE ALREADY VOTED FOR IMPEACHMENT.

  • I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IMPEACHED.

  • THAT IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING WE WOULD HAVE TO DO LITERALLY IN

  • THE NEXT WEEK, AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE OUR NEW SENATORS SEATED

  • YET.

  • BUT I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED AS

  • WELL.

  • BUT THE POINT OF THIS IS THAT TODAY, BASED ON THAT VOTE, WE

  • HAVE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AGAINST WHAT THIS PRESIDENT IS DOING.

  • SO THAT WILL BE HELPFUL, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS.

  • >> Stephen: WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE, SENATOR.

  • I KNOW THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY TRYING DAY FOR YOU.

  • THANK YOU FOR...

  • >> MORTIFYING STEPHEN.

  • IT'S TRYING FOR AMERICA.

  • IT'S NOT TRYING FOR ME.

  • >> Stephen: I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

  • AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

  • BUT I-- I APPRECIATE YOU AND THE OTHER SENATORS WHO ATTEMPTED TO

  • DO THE RIGHT THING TODAY.

  • AND IN THE FACE OF THIS RESISTANCE.

  • AND-- >> IT'S FOR AMERICA--

  • >> IT WAS A COUP, STEPHEN.

  • IT WAS A COUP.

  • I KEPT CALLING IT A COUP WHEN THEY BROUGHT IT UP, BUT RIGHT

  • NOW, THAT'S WHAT YOU SAW THAT THAT PRESIDENT TRIED TO INCITE.

  • BUT I WILL TELL YOU ONE THING-- HE FAILED.

  • >> Stephen: DO YOU HAVE A MESSAGE FOR THE AMERICAN

  • PEOPLE?" >> WE HAVE A NEW PRESIDENT.

  • ON JANUARY 20, JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS ARE GOING TO BE

  • INAUGURATED.

  • THIS ERA WILL BE BEHIND US, BUT FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT DESECRATED

  • THIS CAPITOL AND CREATED THESE ACTS OF VIOLENCE, THEY WILL BE

  • PROSECUTED.

  • AND THIS JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SHOULD START RIGHT NOW AND DO IT

  • NOW.

  • BUT IT WILL CONTINUE ON INTO JOE BIDEN'S ADMINISTRATION.

  • HE HAS MADE THAT VERY CLEAR.

  • THIS CANNOT BE TOLERATED.

  • >> Stephen: MINNESOTA SENATOR AMY KLOBUCHAR, EVERYBODY.

  • THANK YOU, SENATOR.

  • WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH REPRESENTATIVE ADAM KINZINGER.

♪ ♪ ♪ >> Stephen: WELCOME BACK TO

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