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  • >> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY.

  • WE'RE BACK WITH THE AUTHOR OF "A PROMISED LAND," PRESIDENT BARACK

  • OBAMA.

  • WHAT DO YOU THINK OF PEOPLE WHO SAY IT WOULD BE GOOD IF

  • REPUBLICAN HELD THE SENATE BECAUSE DEMOCRATS WILL GO TOO

  • FAR IF THEY CONTROL EVERYTHING.

  • >> I EXPERIENCED DIVIDED GOVERNMENT AND I WILL TELL YOU

  • THAT GRIDLOCK AND DYSFUNCTION IS A RECIPE FOR NOT ONLY NOT

  • SOLVING BIG PROBLEMS BUT ALSO GROWING CYNICISM AMONG THE

  • ELECTORATE THAT FURTHER POLARIZES FOLKS.

  • >> Stephen: WHY WEREN'T YOU NICER TO MITCH McCONNELL?

  • WHY WEREN'T YOU NICER TO HIM?

  • >> LET ME TELL YOU, OF ALL THE ARGUMENTS MADE DURING MY

  • PRESIDENCY, THE NOTION THAT MY BIG PROBLEM WAS NOT SCHMOOZING

  • MITCH McCONNELL ENOUGH WAS MORE OF THE MORE FRUSTRATING

  • ONES I HEARD BUT WAS ENTIRELY ACCEPTED.

  • IT'S STILL CONVENTIONAL WISDOM TO THIS DAY IN PARTS OF

  • WASHINGTON.

  • MITCH McCONNELL UNDERSTOOD, AND I WRITE ABOUT THIS

  • EXTENSIVELY, THAT, IF YOU THROW SAND IN THE GEARS AND STUFF

  • DOESN'T WORK, THE AVERAGE VOTER DOESN'T REALLY KNOW WHY IT'S NOT

  • WORKING, THEY DON'T KNOW WHO'S IN CHARGE, THEY DON'T KNOW THE

  • DETAILS OF SENATE PROCEDURE, WHAT THEY DO UNDERSTAND IS THE

  • PRESIDENT'S IN CHARGE, AND WE'RE STILL SEEING THE SAME ARGUMENTS

  • THAT WE USED TO SEE.

  • SO THAT'S GOOD FOR THE OPPOSITION PARTY.

  • >> Stephen: IF I ONLY HAD ONE QUESTION TO ASK YOU RIGHT NOW,

  • IT WOULD BE, WHAT HAPPENS NOW?

  • WHAT THE HELL HAPPENS NOW?

  • >> YEAH.

  • >> Stephen: WHEN YOU HAVE HALF OR 70% OF THE REPUBLICANS OR

  • MAYBE ABOUT 40% OF THE PUBLIC THINK THAT JOE BIDEN WON BY

  • CHEATING?

  • HOW DOES HE REACH THOSE PEOPLE?

  • >> WELL, LOOK, I THINK HE'S IN A GOOD POSITION TO MAKE THE

  • EFFORT.

  • THE FACT THAT HE WON IS INDICATIVE OF THE MESSAGE HE

  • SENT OF WANTING TO UNIFY THE COUNTRY.

  • I DO THINK PEOPLE ARE EXHAUSTED BY JUST THIS, YOU KNOW, -- YOU

  • KNOW, WORLD WRESTLING FEDERATION, CONSTANT CAGE MATCH,

  • AND PEOPLE JUST WANT TO FEEL AS IF A DAY PASSES WITHOUT IT BEING

  • DOMINATED BY SOMETHING CRAZY COMING OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE OR

  • WASHINGTON.

  • >> Stephen: DON'T GET ME WRONG.

  • YOU ARE A GREAT PRESIDENT AND PEOPLE ACCUSED YOU OF BEING A

  • CELEBRITY.

  • THERE WERE DAYS I DID NOT THINK ABOUT YOU.

  • >> YOU DID NOT THINK ABOUT ME.

  • AND I THINK JOE WILL GET BACK TO THAT.

  • I THINK HE WILL HAVE SOME SUCCESS IN BUILDING BACK SOCIAL

  • TRUST BECAUSE HE IS NATURALLY SOMEONE WHO IS EMPATHETIC AND

  • CARES ABOUT PEOPLE.

  • BUT I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LARGER CHALLENGE IN

  • FIGURING OUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT THIS SPLINTERED MEDIA LANDSCAPE.

  • I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT I CAN'T EMPHASIZE THIS ENOUGH,

  • WHEN YOU AND I WERE GROWING UP, YOU HAD WALTER CRONKITE, DAVID

  • BRINKLEY, JOHN CHANCELLOR.

  • IT WASN'IT WASN'T SCINTILLATING TELEVISION, BUT WHETHER YOU WERE

  • A CONSERVATIVE OR LIBERAL, YOU GOT YOUR NEWS FROM THE SAME

  • PLACE, SO YOU HAD SOME COMMON BASELINE OF FACTS, AND NOW YOU

  • DON'T.

  • AND HOW YOU CHANGE THAT FORMULA, WITH THE INTERNET AND 5,000

  • CABLE STATIONS AND THE DEATH OF SMALLTOWN NEWSPAPERS AND EVEN

  • LOCAL TV NOW BEING BOUGHT OUT BY SINCLAIR SO THAT THEY'RE NOW

  • PUMPING OUT SORT OF A MORE UNIFORM IDEOLOGICAL LINE ON

  • EVERYTHING, THAT MAKES THINGS MORE DIFFICULT, AND I THINK THAT

  • JOE'S PRESIDENCY WILL HELP LOWER THE TEMPERATURE, BUT THE

  • UNDERLYING CHALLENGE OF US GETTING BACK TO THE POINT WHERE

  • WE CAN AT LEAST AGREE THAT, LET'S SAY JOE BIDEN GOT MORE

  • VOTES, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S -- WE CAN ARGUE ABOUT WHY, WHETHER HE

  • DESERVED TO GET MORE VOTES, ET CETERA, BUT HE GOT MORE

  • VOTES.

  • >> Stephen: WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THIS ARGUMENT, YOU SAY JOE BIDEN

  • GOT MORE VOTES.

  • >> YEAH.

  • >> Stephen: HOW COULD HE HAVE GOTTEN MORE VOTES IF THE

  • PRESIDENT WON?

  • HE WON, SO THE OTHER GUY GETTING MORE VOTES FEELS FISHY, DOESN'T

  • IT?

  • WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT THAT WAY, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND HOW OTHER

  • PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT IT.

  • GET OUTSIDE YOUR BUBBLE, SIR.

  • THINK ABOUT HOW SOMEBODY ELSE IS LOOKING AT IT.

  • HE WON SO WHY ARE THERE SO MANY VOTES ON THE OTHER SIDE?

  • >> SOMETHING'S WRONG.

  • >> Stephen: THANK YOU.

  • ON BEHALF OF SO MANY AMERICANS, I ACCEPT YOUR APOLOGY.

  • >> I WAS TALKING TO FRIEND OF MINE ABOUT THIS AND I WAS TRYING

  • TO USE A SIMPLE ANALOGY THAT I THINK EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS,

  • WHAT'S SOMETHING WE STILL HAVE IN COMMON, AND DESPITE

  • CONTROVERSIES AROUND C.T., ET CETERA, PEOPLE STILT WATCH

  • FOOTBALL.

  • SO YOU IMAGINE THE SUPER BOWL AND, YOU KNOW, THE GAME'S GOING

  • ON AND TOUCHDOWNs ARE SUPPOSED TO BE WORTH SIX POINTS WITH THE

  • EXTRA POINT, UNLESS YOU GO FOR TWO, AND FIELD GOALS ARE WORTH

  • THREE POINTS, AND YOU'RE KEEPING SCORE THE WHOLE TIME, AND THERE

  • ARE REFS, AND AT THE END OF THE GAME A TEAM'S WON AND SOMEBODY

  • SAYS, NO!

  • FIELD GOALS AREN'T WORTH ETHREE, OR THAT WASN'T REALLY A

  • TOUCHDOWN.

  • >> Stephen: HUGO CHAVEZ KEPT BLOCKING THE FIELD GOAL FROM THE

  • GRAVE!

  • >> WE'VE ALL BEEN WATCHING, AND I GUESS, IF YOU HAD -- THE OTHER

  • PEOPLE JUST REFUSED TO ACKNOWLEDGE IT AND YOU HAD HALF

  • THE LEAGUE SAY WE'RE NOT SURE IT'S TRUE, YOU WOULD HAVE A

  • SIMILAR CONTROVERSY, BUT WHEN THAT STARTS HAPPENING, THE GAME

  • BREAKS DOWN AND IN THIS CASE IT'S OUR DEMOCRACY, OUR

  • DEMOCRACY STARTS FALLING APART.

  • IMAGINE IF, GOING FORWARD, EVERY SINGLE ELECTION IS TREATED THIS

  • WAY AT EVERY LEVEL, IMAGINE IF DEMOCRATS START ACTING THIS

  • WAY -- >> Stephen: IS THAT PART OF

  • THE DANGER THAT HE'S BROKEN THE SEAL ON THAT IDEA.

  • >> THAT IS THE CONCERN THAT I THINK WE ALL HAVE.

  • JOE BIDEN'S GOING TO BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT, KAMALA HARRIS IS

  • GOING TO BE THE NEXT VICE PRESIDENT, BUT WE DON'T

  • WANT TO GET INTO A PATTERN WHERE WE JUST ARE WILLING TO THROW OUT

  • WHAT WE'VE AGREED TO PREVIOUSLY, INCLUDING OUR CONSTITUTIONAL

  • STRUCTURE, JUST BECAUSE WE FIND IT POLITICALLY EXPEDIENT.

  • >> Stephen: A LOT OF PRESIDENTS, ONCE THEY LEAVE

  • OFFICE, BECOMES FRIENDS OR ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE OTHER

  • PRESIDENT.

  • THEY LAY DOWN THEIR SWORD AND SHIELD A LITTLE BIT.

  • YOU'VE PLAYED GOLF WITH PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH AND

  • BILL CLINTON.

  • DO YOU HAVE A TEE TIME WITH THE CURRENT PRESIDENT YET?

  • >> I DO NOT.

  • FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, HE'S A PRETTY GOOD GOLFER.

  • >> Stephen: ALL RIGHT.

  • I UNDERSTAND, SHOCKINGLY ENOUGH, THERE ARE SOMETIMES

  • PROBLEMS WITH THE SCORING, AND WHETHER HE'S KEEPING TRACK OF

  • HIS STROKES.

  • >> Stephen: THAT'S HUGO CHAVEZ AGAIN.

  • THAT'S HIS CADDY.

  • >> IT'S SURPRISING.

  • >> Stephen: I LOVE THE PLANS OF THE OBAMA LIBRARY ON THE

  • SOUTH SIDE OF CHICAGO.

  • IT'S BEAUTIFUL.

  • LOOKS LIKE STAR FLIGHT HEADQUARTERS LANDED THERE.

  • YOU HAVE A MUSEUM, GYM WHERE YOU CAN PLAY BASKETBALL, BUMPER

  • CARS, WATER SLIDE, WHAT ELSE.

  • >> THE BUMPER CARS, NO.

  • >> Stephen: YOU COULDN'T FUND THAT?

  • >> NO, UNLESS YOU WANT TO CONFUSE THAT.

  • STEPHEN COLBERT MEMORIAL BUMPER CARS.

  • >> Stephen: SOMEBODY PRICE IT AND I'LL THINK ABOUT IT.

  • >> THIS COULD END UP BEING NOT JUST -- THE GOAL IS NOT JUST

  • HAVE SOME MAUSOLEUM TO ME.

  • IT'S RATHER TO CREATE A LIVING DYNAMIC CENTER AROUND WHICH

  • YOUNG PEOPLE CAN GET INSPIRED AND EVEN TRY THEIR HAND AT AND

  • LEARN ABOUT HOW THEIR VOICES CAN BRING ABOUT CHANGE.

  • >> Stephen: ONE OF THE DETAILS I LIKE IS THIS IS GOING TO BE

  • THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY THAT'S ALL DIGITAL.

  • THERE'S NO PAPER.

  • IS THAT BECAUSE AFTER THIS BOOK THERE IS NO PAPER LEFT?

  • >> THAT'S IT.

  • >> Stephen: IS THIS WHY THERE WAS A PAPER SHORTAGE IN THE

  • SPRING?

  • DID ALL THE TOILET PAPER FETE REROUTED AND RE-PULPED INTO THIS

  • THING?

  • A LOT OF PAGES, 740 PAGES.

  • >> 701, THE ACTUAL STUFF TO READ.

  • >> Stephen: INDEX IS THERE AND I'M NOT IN IT.

  • 748 PAGES AND I DON'T EVEN GET MENTIONED IN HERE.

  • WE DID A BUNCH OF STUFF TOGETHER.

  • >> VOLUME TWO.

  • >> Stephen: OKAY, GOOD.

  • A LOT OF SIMILAR STORIES BETWEEN THESE TWO.

  • A LITTLE CROSSOVER IN THINGS LIKE THIS.

  • >> YES.

  • >> Stephen: IN HER BOOK, MEETING AND YOUR COURTSHIP TO

  • YOUR ENGAGEMENT, 63 PAGES.

  • THREE PAGES.

  • THREE PAGES!

  • >> ARE YOU TRYING TO GET ME IN TROUBLE?

  • >> Stephen: I'M JUST SURPRISED YOUR EDITOR DIDN'T STOP YOU FROM

  • GETTING IN TROUBLE.

  • >> NUMBER ONE, I'M NOT GOING TO CHALLENGE HER VERSION TO HAVE

  • THE EVENTS.

  • SO SHE'S DONE IT, THAT'S HOW IT HAPPENED.

  • >> Stephen: YEAH.

  • ECONDLY, IN MY SECOND BOOK, I TALK ABOUT MEETING HER,

  • ALREADY.

  • SO I'VE SPREAD THE STORY OF OUR MEETING OVER THREE BOOKS AND SHE

  • JUST CONDENSED IT ALL INTO ONE.

  • >> Stephen: WE HAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER BREAK, SIR, BUT STICK

  • AROUND.

  • WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MICHELLE OBAMA'S HUSBAND.

  • AT LAST ♪ ♪ MY LOVE HAS COME ALONG

  • MY LONELY DAYS ARE OVER

>> Stephen: HEY, EVERYBODY.

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President Obama On What Happens Next: "Joe's Presidency Will Help Lower The Temperature"

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    林宜悉 posted on 2020/12/01
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