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-My first guest is one of my all-time favorite comedians.
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He has a new book out called "Is This Anything?"
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which is filled with 45 years worth of his stand-up material,
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and it is so good, I mean, like, the best stand-up material.
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You can just read this, and even if even if you're not funny,
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you sound funny. That's how good it is.
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Before we say hello to Jerry,
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please take a look at this iconic moment from his career.
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Here he is throwing out the first pitch
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at Citi Field last year.
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-He does the Turk Wendell move,
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slamming the jacket down.
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Then with the exaggerated wind-up
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comes sidearm like Terry Leach
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and throws a perfect strike. -Very nice.
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-Here he is, Jerry Seinfeld, everybody!
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-Jimmy, I can't believe you showed that.
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That's my favorite thing!
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-That's the thing. I always mess up your intro.
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I figured I'd give you, for Thanksgiving this year --
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You're always on tradition, but it's fun.
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You're always here on Thanksgiving.
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-Yes. I love always being with you on Thanksgiving, on TV.
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'Cause we don't want real Thanksgiving.
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We want TV Thanksgiving.
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-Yeah. -Right? That's what we like.
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-Yeah. We don't do the -- No.
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What would we do at a real Thanksgiving? No.
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-No. You got to laugh at real Thanksgiving.
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What the hell good is it?
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-No, this is exactly -- -You want to get a laugh,
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that means money in the bank. -Thank you.
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You know me so well. [ Both laugh ]
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I want to talk about the book.
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But first, how is the family? How's Jessica? How's Sascha?
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-Everyone -- -They're all good?
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-All good. Thank you for asking. How about yours?
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-They're great. They're cute. It's awesome.
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But, I mean, my kids are -- They're little.
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I mean, your kids are --
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-They're still your kids Don't diminish them
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because they're young.
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-I know, but they won't see this. I mean,
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I'll show this to them when they're older, you know?
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They're 5 and 7 right now, so --
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-Oh, that's nice.
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-But your kids are 17. They're teenagers. 20.
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-17, 15, and 20, yeah.
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-Wow. 20 years old.
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How is it? How is it with teenagers and older kids?
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-The greatest.
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It only gets better. Everything gets better.
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And I like teenagers a lot because of the hostility, the --
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They're great debaters. They will fight you.
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They will break down your flaws in your logic.
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-Yeah. -So it really
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works better for me.
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Jessica was a great mom,
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but I really want to engage more syntactically.
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-Yeah. Oh, and do you debate?
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You get in good debates with the kids?
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-Sure, all the time. It's constant.
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Well, I -- The problem with married life
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I think for a man, for a husband, is the amount of room
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for you to complain just gets smaller
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because it gets taken up by the other people.
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-Complaining, yeah.
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There's only so much complaining that can happen.
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-Yeah. You go, "Well --" You know,
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I'm lucky to get in a, "Where's the remote?"
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That's as much as I can complain.
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-Yeah, because you've made these humans and --
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-Yeah. "Maybe you could put it back in the charger
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when you're done with it."
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-You think? -Yeah.
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-Jessica sent out a very funny post during quarantine.
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It said that because you have nowhere to perform,
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right now, you walk around all day yelling.
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[ Both laugh ]
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I think that that's accurate.
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-Do you yell when you talk in the house?
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'Course you do. -Yeah, you have to.
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There's no one else. -Yeah, you want to use
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your stage voice, 'cause I'm not using it.
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I'm using it right now. -Yep.
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-But nobody wants to hear this volume
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for -- -For all day long.
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-Are you done with the maple syrup?
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Then put it back in the middle of the table so I can reach it.
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-[ Laughs ]
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-I just said that the other day,
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'cause I do it -- I do it all the time.
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I want to talk about the new book, "Is This Anything?"
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"Is This Anything?"
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-Yeah, I love the way you said it,
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'cause that is how we say it. -Right?
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That's the title. -It's something you say. Yeah.
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-You have an idea for a bit, and you go,
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"Hey, is this anything?"
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[ Both laugh ] -Yeah.
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-And what do we hope that people say?
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-You hope they laugh, but you have to say something.
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This says, "Here -- Bit coming. Here comes a bit."
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-Yes, that's true.
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-'Cause you can't just go into it.
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Well, sometimes you can, but --
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-Yeah, that's what I've been trying to do with Nancy.
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I can't -- I have to say, "I have an idea for a bit,"
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and then I do it, because -- -Right.
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-Yeah, because if I just try to get into it,
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it's too weird, and it's like, "Wait,
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why are you talking about, you know, golf or something?"
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I don't know what I was trying --
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-Right, to Nancy, you would say, "I have an idea for a bit."
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To me, you would say, "Is this anything?"
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'cause I know all we're interested in is bits anyway.
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-Yeah, exactly right. Yeah.
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-I wouldn't wonder what "this" is.
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-Yeah. "Is this anything?" means, yeah, is this a joke
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or is this somewhere where I can try something?
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-Yeah, can I get a laugh with this somehow?
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-Uh, you know, I wanted to ask when I'm looking at all these,
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'cause, gosh, you go through all the decades.
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It's awesome. -Yeah, decade by decade.
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Well, I turned 65, and I thought,
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"Well, that's the end of regulation."
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I reached the end of regulation,
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and I should turn something in.
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You know, who knows?
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-Who knows? -Let's have it out there.
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Okay, this is what I did.
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Just wanted to make something that I could leave and go,
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"This is what I spent my life doing, if you're interested."
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-Yeah. Is this for comedians?
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Is it just for fans of comedy?
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-Oh, anybody that likes comedy I think would like it,
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but I thought a lot about comedians
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being able to look at it and kind of figure out,
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"Oh, that's how he set that joke up. I can --"
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So I did it in double space
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so you can kind of analyze it if you want.
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"Well, how does he get from that line to that line?"
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-That's -- I was going to talk about this, I swear!
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-Really? -I love that you did this.
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I've never seen it done before.
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Even in the first chapter,
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is you talking about the book.
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and you -- I've never seen --
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Look at the spacing on this. -Yeah, I double-spaced it.
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-And I loved this 'cause I could do my own timing
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of reading this, every single line.
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I've never seen it like that, and it's set up, the whole book.
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It was brilliant.
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-Oh, I'm glad you liked it. -I swear -- I wish I said it
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before you said it, because I really -- I loved it.
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I go, "Oh, my gosh." And I thought, blah, blah, blah.
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And I'm reading it in the rhythm.
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And I go, "This is so easy and fun to read,"
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before you get into the material.
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-Yeah. -And then I go, "Oh."
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-Well, good stand-up is really like song lyrics or poetry.
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It's very kind of organized.
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It's a very organized progression...
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-Yeah. Here's the bridge. -...like good music is.
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-Yeah. Here's the chorus. Here's the bridge.
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-Yes. -Here's the -- Yeah.
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Do you look at any of these bits
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and go like, "I could make that better right now.
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I could punch that a little"? -Yes. Yes, I do.
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But I --
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You know, anybody could look at their early work and go,
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"Oh, my gosh. This is not as good as I got later on."
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And I started doing that
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when I was looking at the earliest stuff.
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And then I thought, "That's not really fair to your young self
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who was --" 'Cause that stuff,
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whatever it is, it got you to the next step,
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which got to the next step and the next step.
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So I thought, I'm going to be nicer to this early stuff
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instead of going, "Oh, my gosh. This is so infantile.
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This is so basic. This is so hacky," whatever it is.
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But it got you there. It got you from being just --
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I was just a kid in my room
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to onstage at Catch a Rising Star
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on First Avenue and 78th Street.
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-Yeah. I love that. You set the stage so well,
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like, sitting as a kid watching the TV,
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eating cereal in a horizontally striped shirt,
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I think I want to say. And you're watching,
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you're going, "How can these people talk like this?"
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You're watching "Ed Sullivan Show."
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And you go, "I'm going to see if I can do that."
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And you were eating a -- No, you're eating cereal.
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But then you said later in that thing, you go,
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"I just want to do it for laughs.
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That's really what I want to do this for, but also,
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if I just have -- If I can make enough money
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to buy Wonder Bread and Skippy peanut butter, I'm set."
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-Yeah. -Yeah.
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-I thought, how funny do you have to be to make enough
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to just get a loaf of Wonder Bread
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and a jar of Skippy a week?"
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'cause I could survive on that.
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-When -- When was the last time you had peanut butter on bread?
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-Today.
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[ Both laugh ]
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-Was it good?
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-Yeah, it's good. -Yeah, it's the best.
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I don't know what they make Wonder Bread out of,
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but wow. It is fantastic. That's what makes it a wonder.
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-It's not bread. It's better than bread.
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-It's more wonder. It's more wonder than bread.
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-Yeah. You wonder.
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-You wonder, "What the heck am I eating?"
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-You wonder, "What is this?" [ Both laugh ]
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There you go. That's something.
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-That's something. I'm telling you.
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Here's you in the Comic Strip, which I loved.
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-Yeah.
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-Do you remember your first night, and were you nervous?
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Were you -- Is it that butterflies?
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Were you cocky? What was it like the first --
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-I was catatonically nervous.
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I didn't -- I didn't think I was funny.
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I didn't think -- I didn't know if I was funny.
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My friends thought I was funny, but I was not convinced of it.
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-Yeah.
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-And so my friend told me
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that Humphrey Bogart would always have a shot of Scotch
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before he would do something difficult.
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So we went to the bar next door to Catch a Rising Star,
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and we threw down a shot of Scotch.
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-Did that help? -No.
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-No. [ Both laugh ]
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No, of course not. It did nothing.
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You're just starting out.
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I think that's a thing about stand-up, too.
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It's like, even -- even now when you do a joke,
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I don't know if I'm funny.
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-You don't know. You're not.
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If the joke's not funny, you're not in that moment.
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-Yeah. -In that moment
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you're -- you're absolutely nothing
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of what you want to be.
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-If you get a laugh, you're everything that you want to be.
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-It's the best feeling in the world.
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-Yeah. And the worst.
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-And the worst if you don't, -If you don't.
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-Yeah, that's -- -And that's what people
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I think are attracted to it for.
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They want to see a person -- That's why I watch baseball.