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  • Kirstie is not an exaggeration to say that there is absolute turmoil tonight in the parliamentary Labor Party.

  • This is what one shadow minister told me.

  • Number 10 could not have designed this better to make us look awful.

  • It is a disaster on Let's just look at this tweet from day Margaret Hodge's the veteran Labor MP on former minister who told Jeremy Corbyn to his face that he was a racist and an anti Semite.

  • So she has tweeted.

  • I simply cannot comprehend why it is accepted, according to be a Labor MP, if he thinks anti Semitism is exaggerated, Onda political Attack refuses to apologize, never takes responsibility for his actions on rejects.

  • The findings of the E.

  • H.

  • R.

  • C.

  • Report.

  • Ridiculous, she said.

  • Now I understand that day.

  • Margaret has relayed her concerns directly to secure Starmer on.

  • As I understand it, he faces a fight on his hands to persuade her to remain as a labor MP.

  • So how did it blow up?

  • Well, this all dates back three weeks ago to the finding by that e HRC report that the Labor Party had unlawfully discriminated against Jewish Labor Party members now on the day of the report, Jeremy Corbyn accepted the recommendations of that report on Hey said that there had Bean a problem with anti Semitism, but then he said this.

  • The numbers have bean exaggerated in my view.

  • The public perception in opinion poll last year was that one third of all Labor Party members were somehow or other under suspicion of anti Semitism.

  • The reality is it was not.

  • 10.3% of party members had a case against them which had to be put through the process Well.

  • That claim about an exaggeration led to his suspension from Labor, which was endorsed by CARE Starmer.

  • I made it clear that we won't tolerate anti Semitism or the denial of anti Semitism through the suggestion that it's exaggerated or factional, and that's why I was disappointed with Jeremy Corbyn's response and that is why appropriate action has been taken, which I fully support on now, Jeremy Corbyn has Bean re admitted to the Labor Party after releasing a statement that he sent to the party on the day off his suspension in which he clarified his remarks.

  • So let's look at the actual crucial bit off that statement and there you go.

  • It says to be clear.

  • Concerns about anti Semitism are neither exaggerated nor overstated.

  • The point I wish to make was that the vast majority of Labor Party members were and remain committed anti racist, deeply opposed.

  • Tow anti Semitism.

  • Now Jeremy Corbyn regards that as a clarification, not a U turn, a clarification that people's concerns about anti Semitism were not exaggerated.

  • But the scale of anti Semitism was exaggerated.

  • So this would appear to suggest that Jeremy Corbyn is saying yes.

  • I now fully support what is in the Equality and Human Rights Commission report.

  • But that still leaves Keir Starmer the problem.

  • It undermines his leadership.

  • Yes, so tonight he is under intense pressure with a very unhappy parliamentary party.

  • And tonight he tweeted, Ah, lengthy thread, not a word welcoming Jeremy Corbyn back into the party.

  • And this is how he began that, he said, I know that this has been another painful day for the Jewish community on those labor members who fought so hard to tackle anti Semitism.

  • I know the hurt that is being caused on the trauma people have felt Now.

  • I spoke to one member, the shadow cabinet.

  • They do not detect in this decision to bring Jeremy Corbyn back, sort of die hard supporters in the NDC plotting to bring Jeremy Corbyn back.

  • It's more a case of labor officials taking to heart one of the main criticisms in that report, off political involvement in decision making over cases and keeping Jeremy Corbyn at arm's length.

  • But there is a very strong sorry.

  • There's a very strong feeling in the Labor Party and indeed in the shadow cabinet that Kier, Starmer and the leadership have one card left they could play, which is not to restore the labor whip to Jeremy Corbyn.

  • Nick, thank you very much indeed.

  • Well, to discuss this further, I'm joined in the studio by Jenny Manson, the co chair off Jewish force for Labor, on from Liverpool, Riverside, the former MP for that area, Louise Ellman.

  • Jenny Manson.

  • First of all, why couldn't Jeremy Corbyn simply apologized today for what he said on the day that the report was published.

  • First of all, I want to correct something that you were saying.

  • He did not reject the findings for the HRC.

  • I want to say some things about the HRC report myself, he did not reject the findings in that speech will find he did not.

  • He said.

  • Let's be quite clear.

  • What do you said?

  • You said that it actually had been accusations of anti Semitism, the party dramatically exaggerated.

  • So I was talking about the fact he did not reject the findings of the HRC report, which I think they said a moment ago.

  • He didn't way, didn't say he rejected the findings.

  • He said, They're being dramatically exaggerated.

  • Two bites.

  • Okay, the fact into the factories.

  • I'm asking you that straightforward quest, cause many of us know that these claims have bean exaggerated.

  • I am Jewish, too.

  • There's a lot of talk about the Jewish community just now on how offended they are and how key is very worried about them.

  • Nobody seems to remember that there are about 250,300 Jews in 1000 years in this country.

  • A very large number of our let me be quite clear in terms of your number.

  • I'm saying, in terms of your numbers, your point about the numbers.

  • What I'm trying to say is there is many, many Jewish communities on.

  • They're not all upset about being back in the day party.

  • An awful lot of us are very happy that back in the party on, a lot of us would say, like he said, that the allegations were over over, exaggerated partly by the media.

  • So the figure he mentioned in a book called Bad News for Labor.

  • They discovered the people out there think that 30% of Labor Party members have investigated the actual figures or something like that.

  • But can I also say that many of those allegations, according to the HRC, were not correct?

  • Can I just say that you talk about Many Jewish people are behind Jeremy Corbyn.

  • This 84% off the British Jewish Jewish community below leave.

  • There's a specific threat to British Jews.

  • According to the campaign against anti Semitism is nearly study that is a substantial.

  • I mean, you know that the British Board of Jewish Deputies, which for overwhelmingly think this is a retrograde step.

  • You don't represent them.

  • Can I just say something about 10 20 years ago?

  • Do stop voting labor.

  • So there's a considerable feeling About 80% of people don't do among the Jews who are secular.

  • Jews often don't get invited to for these surveys because they're not even registered.

  • All line can tell you is that the heretic community?

  • It does not feel like that Sector Jews don't feel like that.

  • You can use a secular Jews if it's, you know, modernity off any more than anyone else is what I give up, what you make off the actual report, Jeremy Corbyn said he will support the E H R C recommendations in full.

  • Is he right to do that?

  • The recommendations were okay, but can I just say something about the right to do that?

  • He's perfectly right to do that.

  • There are some points there that were very worried about.

  • We want, for example, as another doing a part of the Jewish community.

  • We have very much hoping that Keir Starmer will talk to us about training.

  • We have our own training beliefs, but let me just tell you one thing about the report, the report found, um, it makes no statement about the scale of anti Semitism whatsoever.

  • But what it did find is that there were very unfair practice in the investigation on many respondents, people accused are particularly unfairly dealt with.

  • Nobody's talking.

  • Let's move nobody's talking about that.

  • Let's let's move on and talk about the future.

  • Do you now think that all supporters of Jeremy Corbyn should throw their weight behind cursed armor and bring unity to the party?

  • Um, the question.

  • I would be very sad indeed.

  • If the whip is taken away from Jeremy, I do.

  • Of course, I'm a Labor Party member fiercely loyal to the party, and I would very much like unity.

  • I am very pleased.

  • You ready to throw your weight behind Kier?

  • Starmer?

  • I don't so it means I've never filled my weight behind any leader e report Kier, Starmer and everything that he's doing for the party and shoot other people in the same position.

  • E.

  • I wasn't happy with his view on the bill on soldiers amnesty.

  • Nobody ever ever supports the leader.

  • Complete, of course, I support the leadership of the Labor Party and the Labor Party and the Labor Party member, fiercely loyal, very, very happy to have unity again pleased with the decision.

  • Today, I will be very pleased what happens if Kiarostami does remove the whip from Jeremy Corbyn?

  • You said you heard Nick.

  • What say that?

  • That's a possibility Well, I'll be very sorry.

  • What?

  • I want to talk about his justice.

  • Jeremy is a very good man.

  • He's a 90 racist.

  • The HRC report admits that when he appointed the general secretary Jenny Formby, procedure started to get better.

  • Shami Chakrabarti report is validated in the HR, so I would like the media and yourselves.

  • I'm very pleased to be on to start to look a bit more widely at what's going on, what the report says.

  • What what Jews, apart from those who speak up against him, think we are also important were also spokesman.

  • Indeed, indeed, Let me now turn to Louise Louise Mehlman.

  • What do you make of Jeremy Corbyn's readmittance today?

  • I think this is a backward step.

  • Kissed armor has been very clear that he was going to eradicate labor's shameful anti Semitism.

  • After all, the HRC report found Jeremy Corbyn's leadership responsible for anti Semitism in the Labor Party and said that the growth of anti Jewish racism the Labor Party was at odds with the party's commitment to anti racism, so it couldn't have been clearer than that kiss.

  • Thomas has given strong commitments today.

  • A decision was taken by the members of the Labor Party through the National Executive Committee to readmit Jeremy Corbyn without him making any apology for what he had done.

  • I think it is a very proud step.

  • If he had made an apology, would that do you think of Donna line in the sand?

  • If he had accepted his responsibility for the demise of the Labor Party party because of its anti Jewish racism, regretted what he had done?

  • I think that was made a very made of he did.

  • He did.

  • Hey did say that it made it clear the concerns about anti Semitism weren't exaggerated.

  • He did say that today this statement he issued today wa s'more of a form of words I suspect designed to allow him to be readmitted to the Labor Party.

  • That phrase was very ambivalent.

  • He could have been referring 20 Semitism in society, not in the Labor Party on.

  • He is responsible for what has happened.

  • It is it is graceful and tremendous that under his leadership, British Jews were thinking off leaving the country.

  • Should he become prime minister.

  • Most people have now recognized that the Labor Party went into a very shameful situation.

  • It must now get away from that kiss.

  • Storm has given the commitment to do it.

  • The members of the Labor Party today is something that took us backwards.

  • I hope that the members of the Labor Party now will listen to the Labor Party's new leadership on Let's rid the Labor Party off this dreadful anti Jewish racism.

  • In a way, I mean, Keir Starmer took on board this idea that one of the criticisms had bean procedures.

  • Before that there have been political interference from the leader's office.

  • So of course he stood back on as it were.

  • Let the procedure take place.

  • There was nothing else presuming the Keir Starmer could have done before today.

  • Well, this was a decision off Labor Party members through the National Executive Committee On it, Z.

  • It suggests to me that at least those members simply have not changed.

  • New members have now being elected to that committee.

  • Hope the new members will follow.

  • The new leader kissed him.

  • But you think I'm still problems within the EEC.

  • They clearly are clearly clearly are the problems.

  • Looking at today's decision on what kissed on on the chief whip should do now is to refuse to restore the whip to Jeremy Corbyn.

  • In that way, they can show that they are determined, as they've said they are to lead the party of this dreadful stain.

  • You know, we heard you the head neck.

  • What say that he has spoken Thio three Labor MPs And here is that there is a very great likelihood that Margaret Hodge will resign as a Labor MP tomorrow.

  • Can you give me your reaction to the possibility of that?

  • Well, Margaret Hodge has Bean a valiant opponent of racism in the party, and Chang Jeremy Corbyn directly.

  • She has fought very, very hard against anti Semitism in the party.

  • It would be a tragedy if a this stage under a new leader she felt forced to resign.

  • But the Labor Party have to show that they are going to change on.

  • They're going to allow care Storm of the new leader to deliver his promises.

  • So as far as you're concerned, she should stay.

  • It has to be decision for Margaret, but it would be a very tragic situation.

  • It has ALS, the fighting she's done.

  • She felt she had to go.

  • I hope the situation being didn't so just picking up what you're saying about the whip.

  • You believe that what is open now to cure Starmer is to withdraw the whip from Jeremy Corbyn?

  • What then happens in your view?

  • If that If he was to do that, what would then happen?

  • Presumably there would be people like Jenny Manson on others off her ilk.

  • There would be again a big battle in the party.

  • There will be an ongoing back in the party until the party is rid of this stain off anti Semitism.

  • You can't be an anti racist party at the same time is carrying out racism against Jewish people.

  • After all, the Equality and Human Rights Commission found that Jewish members of the Labor Party had bean Harris aunt has faced in direct discrimination that is shameful.

Kirstie is not an exaggeration to say that there is absolute turmoil tonight in the parliamentary Labor Party.

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