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  • How should we feel about Brady at this point?

  • Do you think he's getting too much credit for the team's success?

  • Yeah, he is.

  • And let me be very clear.

  • He's playing well.

  • When I said the cliff, everyone's like, Oh, you think he's gonna stink?

  • I never thought he's gonna stink I thought he'd be just a guy Jag He's not.

  • That's why I said I was wrong about the cliff.

  • He's more than just a guy, and that's not just about leadership skills.

  • He looked sharp.

  • He has a lot of weapons, but he knows how to use them.

  • But you could plug in a bunch of guys in Brady's position right now, and you have a two loss team.

  • At this point, you would have a two loss team, a bunch of guys.

  • Not every guy, their quarterbacks, who would, you know, be five and three or some might even be 500 with this team.

  • But there are a bunch of guys who would have the identical record, and they just barely beat the Giants.

  • All the Giants are always competitive.

  • The Giants are almost a winless team.

  • They're one win team.

  • They're not a good team.

  • Um, they lost to the Saints.

  • They lost to the Bears.

  • Um, and and they have some.

  • Also, some Goodwin's, notably against the Packers.

  • That's when they were really firing on all cylinders, right after a game in which Brady made mental errors and the teammate mental errors you anticipated ain't gonna be mental errors, which is why he deserves some credit.

  • Brady's leadership will make sure that after a game like that, you might lose.

  • But it ain't gonna be because of upstairs.

  • You made you made mistakes mentally.

  • So for that I give him credit.

  • But the idea that the Bucks now have Brady and now they're amazing.

  • They have an excellent defense.

  • They have weapons wherever you look.

  • Remember, Jamis won seven games, throwing 112 points to the other team.

  • He won seven games.

  • If you just replace Jameis Winston with a guy who's not going to hand the ball over 30 times to the other team 30 times there, at least I got nine win team.

  • I think that's not unreasonable.

  • Say that at least a nine win team, right?

  • So you just plug a regular guy and I think Brady gives you a premium over that for sure.

  • By the way, even the offensive line they draft talent on the offensive line.

  • They have some guys emerging on the offensive line that look like Pro Bowlers.

  • That team has every single thing you want, including the quarterback.

  • But let's not pretend that it's just about the quarterback.

  • Well, first of all, nobody's pretending.

  • That is just about anybody.

  • We understand that it's a team game and you have certain elements of offense, defense, special teams.

  • But when you're asking that question, you're really asking who deserves the most credit, not who's the Onley person that deserves all the credit, who deserves the most.

  • And I'm gonna tell you it's Tom Brady.

  • I would remind you that that same defense that you're talking about with the exceptional coaching of Todd Bowles is your defensive coordinator.

  • If you recall Todd Bowles was there last year, so was Bruce Arians.

  • So was Byron Leftwich.

  • And on the defensive side of the ball, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, with the 29th ranked defense and 30th against the past.

  • Like last year, they still have the number one defense against the run, but they've dropped from or they've improved from 30th against the past 14 now, and there are top 10 defense ranked at number seven.

  • So, yeah, there's been vast improvement.

  • Um, what could possibly have something to do with that Jeff Saturday?

  • Could it be that 30 interceptions or not being thrown that 112 points and not being given to the opposition that ball control and moving the chains has something to do with the defense improving?

  • Because guess what.

  • They get to rest.

  • They get the plan they get, they don't have.

  • They could just go out there and play, as opposed to having to cover for the multitude of mistakes that were made by Jamis Winston last year.

  • At this time last year, Jamis Winston had 14 or 15 interceptions already.

  • Tom Brady's got 20 touchdowns and four interceptions.

  • He's completing 66% of his passes, and you look at it.

  • Chris Godwin was supposed to be that electrifying talent outside the numbers.

  • That could really make some things happen for you, but he's missed half the games because he's been injured and obviously he's out now.

  • Hopefully he'll be back soon, okay, Mike Evans, he's coming along.

  • We know what a stud he could be.

  • Gronk and breaking all of these boys.

  • But the bottom line is this.

  • You look at Brady.

  • It's not just his accuracy.

  • It's not just his experience.

  • It's also his leadership, because when you galvanize the troops and you maximize the potential around you, Ah, lot of credit needs to be given to that.

  • Nobody.

  • We don't disrespect roots areas.

  • We know he could coach the game of football.

  • We know he's knowledgeable about the game of football.

  • He once took Arizona to the to the NFC championship game, for crying out loud, and we know the job that he did, feeling that football gano in Indy.

  • Which is why he ended up getting the Arizona job.

  • But the reality is, is this.

  • When you look at Tom Brady, it ain't just his ability in throwing the football it his ability to lead and the galvanized and the maximize the potential around him.

  • That ain't Bruce areas doing that.

  • That ain't Byron Leftwich doing that.

  • That's Tom Brady, and that's why he deserves Mawr credit than anybody else on Tampa Bay.

  • Yeah, I would agree with Stephen A on this, and I'll tell you from a guy who believes that quarterbacks get way too much credit for wins and way too much credit for losses.

  • I would say Tom Brady this year has unified this team and held this team together through through unexpected, you know, like the God one injury.

  • O J.

  • Howard goes out for the year, right?

  • That like that, you know, Evans has hurt a little bit.

  • Everybody's kind of nicked up.

  • I mean, it's it's all kind of these, these little one offs that he's kind of steadied the ship.

  • And I think when you look at expectations for what Tom Brady is at 40 plus years old, I think he's playing I Heat before last night.

  • Right?

  • Last night was a bad showing by all of them.

  • They still get the win.

  • You could argue that he's in the M V P conversation for what he's done with this football team, and I think when you talk about what a quarterback is and I made this one, he way all talked about this when he went to Tampa Bay.

  • He is a.

  • He changes the culture of the building and I think you see that last night last year's bucks.

  • Don't win that game, right?

  • It's the little things that don't often show up on the stat sheet.

  • That you see him kind of will them after that Chicago game that you made mention of Max, where it was way too many mental errors way to me, things they did to shoot themselves and cause themselves all kinds of issues and problems as they move forward.

  • It's those expectations that go back into the locker room that make you a better team week after week after week.

  • And I think the defense has done exactly what we had.

  • We expected them they would have to do.

  • They would have to win games early in the season because it was gonna take the offense, probably half, maybe even three quarters of season to really get in rhythm, and you're seeing them begin to get that right, and it's kind of that roller coaster.

  • Some weeks they look good.

  • I get you in some weeks, they don't but Green Bay I mean, like you said, the offense didn't really have to do much right.

  • The defense turn this thing around and made all kinds of plays.

How should we feel about Brady at this point?

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Tom Brady is getting too much credit for the Bucs' success - Max Kellerman | First Take

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    林宜悉 posted on 2020/11/04
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