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  • -Ah. That's what I'm talking about.

  • Thank you so much for being here.

  • -Hey, how you doing? -You know me.

  • Come on. -It's the big guy.

  • -It's the big guy. -The big guy.

  • -The big guy. Hey, you know what?

  • We were just talking to our writers backstage.

  • Have you guys ever seen a ghost before?

  • Have you ever been haunted?

  • -Mm, no.

  • -Tim says no. Swizz?

  • -I've definitely seen ghosts,

  • but I know them every time I've seen them.

  • You know when you see a ghost you're like,

  • "That didn't happen"?

  • -You do that... -But you know what you've seen.

  • -...or do you acknowledge them and make friends with them?

  • Like, that's what I do.

  • -I mean, in one of my first houses, I started to become,

  • you know, friends with my ghost

  • and I'm like, "Just leave me alone right now."

  • -Yeah. You go, "I'm cool, right? It's me.

  • I was just checking it out.

  • You do whatever you're going to do.

  • You're a ghost and that's cool, like --"

  • -Yeah. You're the big guy.

  • They can't be around the big guy.

  • -You can't be around -- the big guy's here.

  • The big guy is in my room. I'm in my man cave.

  • Doing big guy stuff.

  • I think I've heard just so many stories from you,

  • from Justin Timberlake, Tim... -Yeah.

  • -...and just how you guys just like get along, you know,

  • and I'm a little jealous, but it's okay.

  • [ Laughter ] I still got my --

  • I still got -- I got ghost friends.

  • [ Laughter ] -There he --

  • And he's there --

  • -Jimmy's still bringing sexy back.

  • Don't worry about it.

  • -Yeah, Jimmy. You still got sexy back.

  • -Thank you. I appreciate that.

  • But what was the big -- do you remember

  • one of your first big things where you were like,

  • "Oh, I did this. This is good." Was it Missy? Was it --

  • -It was my first record

  • that was a hit...

  • actually was an Aaliyah record,

  • "If Your Girl Only Knew."

  • That was my first hit.

  • -Wow. -Then "Pony" was already out,

  • and then "Pony" came right after that.

  • -Ginuwine. That became --

  • -That was already out and it was already bubbling,

  • but then after "If Your Girl Only Knew,"

  • and then that's when we all kind of connected as a crew.

  • And then "Pony" started to rise, and everybody was like,

  • what is this... [ Imitates beat ]

  • But it was taking over the world. Nobody knew.

  • And the video was out and everything.

  • And then it just blew up after that.

  • -Swizz, what was -- your first one was --

  • Was it "Rough Ryders' Anthem?" Was that DMX?

  • -That dropped Yes.

  • And that was a serious one.

  • You know, growing up in the Bronx

  • and sitting in the streets of Harlem

  • while that record dropped,

  • and...125th Street,

  • and to see every single car drive past playing that song.

  • But I'm sitting on the fire hydrant

  • and nobody know that I produced that song.

  • And just to see the natural energy

  • of your surroundings

  • from something that you produced in your room.

  • DMX didn't want to do the song.

  • He lost a bet with my uncle playing cards

  • and he had to do the vocals to "Stop, drop."

  • And at first I thought he lost the bet,

  • but "Stop, drop" became so big, I realized that he won the bet.

  • So... -Yeah, exactly.

  • Yeah, exactly, yeah.

  • So you guys get together.

  • How did you decide to do "Verzuz" during quarantine?

  • How did that all happen?

  • -You know, Tim is a big instigator.

  • You know, he's an instigator. He likes to start fights

  • and, you know -- -That's true.

  • -A real bully around these places, you know.

  • -Oh, my goodness. Wow.

  • -That's how I kind of -- he's right.

  • It started that way. -Really?

  • -You know, the first,

  • I say the first time everybody locked down,

  • we tripping out like, what are we going to do?

  • We were just talking and talking about life, and I just got into,

  • like, antagonizing mode.

  • And I just started, like, putting up video posts.

  • And then he's like, "I see what you're doing."

  • -No, no, no. You were saying, "What you going to do, Swizz?

  • What are we doing, Swizz?" -Really?

  • -"What are you thinking, Swizz?" -And you go, let's do it.

  • Let's go for it. Let's see who has --

  • Let's go for it. Prove it to everybody.

  • Let's go on Instagram Live. -Yes.

  • -At first it was more of a, really was a kind of

  • a competition, but then I think it kind of grew

  • into kind of more of a mutual admiration.

  • And, like, fans kind of, and stans going at each other

  • like, "Oh, you can't even touch Babyface --"

  • That was it -- Babyface, by the way.

  • That was the one. [ Laughter ]

  • -Babyface and Teddy Riley?

  • -That broke the Internet. That broke everything.

  • I go like, "Babyface, what's going on?

  • Like, I got to check this out."

  • This is such a good idea,

  • because it's friendly competition.

  • But I go like -- I forgot how many --

  • -Educational celebration.

  • -Yeah, I forgot how many good jams he had.

  • -Whew. Me too. -Yes. Whew.

  • And now there's something called the "Verzuz Effect."

  • -Mm-hmm.

  • -Can you explain what that is?

  • -It's a multitude of things. It's record sales, streaming,

  • you know, because we're in the world of streaming,

  • and now you have catalogs,

  • we're moving the streams of catalogs going up.

  • People are getting work requests.

  • Everything is happening.

  • And every day like we might -- me and Swizz will get

  • something that happened from "Verzuz," and we're like,

  • "Ooh, the 'Verzuz Effect.'"

  • -It is.

  • -Like the album being --

  • I think Brandy's album was at 40

  • and it went to number 1. -Yep.

  • -That was a great one too. Brandy. Oh, my God.

  • -Brandy and Monica. -And Monica.

  • It was unbelievable.

  • I love Gladys Knight and Patty La Belle.

  • -Ooh! -Ooh!

  • -Did you see the commercials for that?

  • -No, no, no, no, no, no.

  • I can't even -- and I can't pick --

  • -I wanted to bite my phone. [ Light laughter ]

  • -I know season two of "Verzuz" is coming soon,

  • and I know you can't tell us who's going to be on it,

  • but come on. It's the big man.

  • -It's the big guy. -It's the big guy.

  • -The big guy.

  • -You can't tell big guy what's going on?

  • -Go ahead, give him a little something.

  • -I got a phone call from a friend named Busta Rhymes,

  • who says that he's ready

  • for any type of "Verzuz" action

  • out there that's coming his way.

  • -What? -So Busta Rhymes...

  • -Oh, no, no.

  • -"Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Could See."

  • -Oh, my gosh. -Janet Jackson, Busta Rhymes.

  • -Dude if Bust-- So Busta --

  • Who's gonna -- who will accept?

  • Who will accept and go up against --

  • -That's the question that we have for you.

  • Will you accept? -Yeah.

  • I'm ready to go head to head against --

  • -The big guy. [ Laughter ]

  • -I don't even want to --

  • I don't want to put my hands where his eyes can see.

  • I'll just let him -- No. He would destroy --

  • [ Laughter ]

  • Can you imagine?

  • You should do that "Verzuz." A comedy "Verzuz."

  • Two dudes that can't rap go at it.

  • I'll be on that one if you want to do --

  • I would watch that any second, Busta Rhymes.

  • I love him too.

  • Who's it going to be? That's going to be exciting.

  • -But season two is going to be big levels.

  • Big, big levels.

  • A lot of people that weren't ready are ready now.

  • Because, you know, when we ask people to do "Verzuz,"

  • the first thing they say is no. -Yep.

  • -Yes. -A hundred percent.

  • The first thing they say is, "No. That's not my thing.

  • I like to watch that.

  • I don't really want to be a part of it."

  • But then, you know -- because it takes time.

  • They have to go set up with a DJ.

  • They have to revisit their catalog themselves.

  • They have to get the confidence where they need to be.

  • And they have to really start to understand

  • how it can be beneficial and successful for them.

  • And for me I'm like, listen,

  • no matter what you do it's a plus.

  • The only thing you can have a problem if you don't use

  • our tech team, which we have built in.

  • And that's the problem that Teddy Riley had.

  • Everybody wants to use their own tech team

  • and be mad scientists. It doesn't work.

  • So, if you listen to the guidelines

  • and the "Verzuz" tech team is used --

  • -It works. -Scientists.

  • [ Laughter ]

  • -Listen to the scientists!

  • I've been saying this the whole time!

  • [ Laughter ]

  • -I've been saying it the whole time,

  • listen to the scientists, please.

  • Congrats on that and hank you so much.

  • It's a gift that keeps on giving.

  • Swizz Beatz, Timbaland.

  • Season two of "Verzuz" is coming soon

  • to Instagram TV and Apple Music.

-Ah. That's what I'm talking about.

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