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PRESIDENT OBAMA: Good afternoon, everybody. Please have a seat.
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It is my pleasure to welcome President Karzai back to the White House, as well as his delegation.
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We last saw each other during the NATO Summit, in my hometown of Chicago -- a city that reflects
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the friendship between our peoples, including many Afghan-Americans, as well as the Karzai
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family. So, Mr. President, welcome.
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We meet at a critical moment. The 33,000 additional forces that I ordered to Afghanistan have
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served with honor. They’ve completed their mission and, as promised, returned home this
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past fall. The transition is well underway, and soon nearly 90 percent of Afghans will
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live in areas where Afghan forces are in the lead for their own security.
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This year, we’ll mark another milestone -- Afghan forces will take the lead for security
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across the entire country. And by the end of next year, 2014, the transition will be
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complete --Afghans will have full responsibility for their security, and this war will come
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to a responsible end.
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This progress is only possible because of the incredible sacrifices of our troops and
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our diplomats, the forces of our many coalition partners, and the Afghan people who’ve endured
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extraordinary hardship. In this war, more than 2,000 of America’s sons and daughters
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have given their lives. These are patriots that we honor today, tomorrow, and forever.
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And as we announced today, next month I will present our nation’s highest military decoration,
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the Medal of Honor, to Staff Sergeant Clinton Romesha for his heroic service in Afghanistan.
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Today, because of the courage of our citizens, President Karzai and I have been able to review
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our shared strategy. With the devastating blows we’ve struck against al Qaeda, our
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core objective -- the reason we went to war in the first place -- is now within reach:
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ensuring that al Qaeda can never again use Afghanistan to launch attacks against our
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country. At the same time, we pushed the Taliban out of their strongholds. Today, most major
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cities -- and most Afghans -- are more secure, and insurgents have continued to lose territory.
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Meanwhile, Afghan forces continue to grow stronger. As planned, some 352,000 Afghan
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soldiers and police are now in training or on duty. Most missions are already being led
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by Afghan forces. And of all the men and women in uniform in Afghanistan, the vast majority
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are Afghans who are fighting and dying for their country every day.
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We still face significant challenges. But because of this progress, our transition is
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on track. At the NATO Summit last year, we agreed with our coalition partners that Afghan
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forces will take the lead for security in mid-2013.
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President Karzai and his team have been here for several days. We’ve shared a vision
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for how we're going to move ahead. We’ve consulted with our coalition partners, and
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we will continue to do so. And today, we agreed that as Afghan forces take the lead and as
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President Karzai announces the final phase of the transition, coalition forces will move
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to a support role this spring. Our troops will continue to fight alongside Afghans,
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when needed. But let me say it as plainly as I can: Starting this spring, our troops
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will have a different mission -- training, advising, assisting Afghan forces. It will
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be an historic moment and another step toward full Afghan sovereignty -- something I know
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that President Karzai cares deeply about, as do the Afghan people.
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This sets the stage for the further reduction of coalition forces. We’ve already reduced
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our presence in Afghanistan to roughly 66,000 U.S. troops. I’ve pledged we’ll continue
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to bring our forces home at a steady pace, and in the coming months I’ll announce the
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next phase of our drawdown -- a responsible drawdown that protects the gains our troops
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have made.
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President Karzai and I also discussed the nature of our security cooperation after 2014.
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Our teams continue to work toward a security agreement. And as they do, they will be guided
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by our respect for Afghan sovereignty, and by our two long-term tasks, which will be
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very specific and very narrow -- first, training and assisting Afghan forces and, second, targeting
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counterterrorism missions -- targeted counterterrorism missions against al Qaeda and its affiliates.
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Our discussions will focus on how best to achieve these two tasks after 2014, and it’s
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our hope that we can reach an agreement this year.
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Ultimately, security gains must be matched by political progress. So we recommitted our
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nations to a reconciliation process between the Afghan government and the Taliban. President
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Karzai updated me on the Afghan government’s road map to peace. And today, we agreed that
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this process should be advanced by the opening of a Taliban office to facilitate talks.
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Reconciliation also requires constructive support from across the region, including
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Pakistan. We welcome recent steps that have been taken in that regard, and we’ll look
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for more tangible steps -- because a stable and secure Afghanistan is in the interest
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not only of the Afghan people and the United States, but of the entire region.
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And finally, we reaffirmed the Strategic Partnership that we signed last year in Kabul -- an enduring
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partnership between two sovereign nations. This includes deepening ties of trade, commerce,
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strengthening institutions, development, education and opportunities for all Afghans -- men and
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women, boys and girls. And this sends a clear message to Afghans and to the region, as Afghans
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stand up, they will not stand alone; the United States, and the world, stands with them.
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Now, let me close by saying that this continues to be a very difficult mission. Our forces
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continue to serve and make tremendous sacrifices every day. The Afghan people make significant
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sacrifices every day. Afghan forces still need to grow stronger. We remain vigilant
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against insider attacks. Lasting peace and security will require governance and development
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that delivers for the Afghan people and an end to safe havens for al Qaeda and its ilk.
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All this will continue to be our work.
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But make no mistake -- our path is clear and we are moving forward. Every day, more Afghans
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are stepping up and taking responsibility for their own security. And as they do, our
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troops will come home. And next year, this long war will come to a responsible end.
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President Karzai, I thank you and your delegation for the progress we’ve made together and
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for your commitment to the goals that we share -- a strong and sovereign Afghanistan where
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Afghans find security, peace, prosperity and dignity. And in pursuit of that future, Afghanistan
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will have a long-term partner in the United States of America.
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Mr. President.
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PRESIDENT KARZAI: Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. President, for this very gracious
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and warm welcome to me and the Afghan delegation on this visit to Washington, and for bearing
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with us, as I mentioned during our talks in the Blair House, with all the crowds that
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we have there.
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The President and I discussed today in great detail all the relevant issues between the
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two countries. I was happy to see that we have made progress on some of the important
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issues for Afghanistan. Concerning Afghan sovereignty, we agreed on the complete return
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of detention centers and detainees to Afghan sovereignty, and that this will be implemented
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soon after my return to Afghanistan. We also discussed all aspects of transition to Afghan
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governance and security.
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I'm very happy to hear from the President, as we also discussed it earlier, that in spring
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this year the Afghan forces will be fully responsible for providing security and protection
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to the Afghan people, and that the international forces, the American forces will be no longer
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present in Afghan villages, that the task will be that of the Afghan forces to provide
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for the Afghan people in security and protection.
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We also agreed on the steps that we should be taking in the peace process, which is of
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highest priority to Afghanistan. We agreed on allowing a Taliban office in Qatar -- in
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Doha, where the Taliban will engage in direct talks with the representatives of the Afghan
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High Council for Peace, where we will be seeking the help of relevant regional countries, including
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Pakistan -- where we’ll be trying our best, together with the United States and our other
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allies, to return peace and stability to Afghanistan as soon as possible, and employing all the
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means that we have within our power to do that, so the Afghan people can live in security
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and peace and work for their prosperity and educate their children.
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The President and I also discussed the economic transition of Afghanistan and all that entails
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for Afghanistan. Once the transition to Afghan forces is completed, once the bulk of the
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international forces have withdrawn from Afghanistan, we hope that the dividends of that transition
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economically to Afghanistan will be beneficial to the Afghan people, and will not have adverse
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effects on Afghan economy and the prosperity that we have gained in the past many years.
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We also discussed the issue of election in Afghanistan and the importance of election
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for the Afghan people, with the hope that we’ll be conducting a free and fair election
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in Afghanistan where our friends in the international community -- in particular, the United States
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-- will be assisting in conducting those elections, of course; where Afghanistan will have the
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right environment for conducting elections without interference and without undue concern
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in that regard for the Afghan people.
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We also discussed in a bit of detail, and in the environment that we have, all aspects
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of the bilateral security agreement between Afghanistan and the United States, and I informed
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the President that the Afghan people already in the Loya Jirga that we called for -- the
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Strategic Partnership Agreement between us and the United States -- have given their
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approval to this relationship and the value as one that is good for Afghanistan. So in
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that context, the bilateral security agreement is one that the Afghan people approve. And
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I'm sure we will conduct it in detail where both the interests of the United States and
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the interests of Afghanistan will be kept in mind.
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We had a number of other issues also to talk about. During our conversations, and perhaps
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many times in that conversation, beginning with the conversation, of course, I thanked
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the President for the help that the United States has given to the Afghan people, for
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all that we have gained in the past 10 years, and that those gains will be kept by any standard
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while we are working for peace and stability in Afghanistan, including the respect for
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Afghan constitution.
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I also thanked the President and endorsed with him the sacrifices of American men and
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women in uniform and those of other countries. Accordingly, I also informed President Obama
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of the sacrifices of the Afghan people -- of the immense sacrifices of the Afghan people
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in the past 10 years, both for the servicemen and of the Afghan people.
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I’ll be going back to Afghanistan this evening to bring to the Afghan people the news of
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Afghanistan standing shoulder to shoulder with America as a sovereign, independent country,
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but in cooperation and in partnership.
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Thank you, Mr. President, for the hospitality.
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PRESIDENT OBAMA: Thank you very much, Mr. President.
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Okay, we’ve got two questions each I think from U.S. and Afghan press. I will start with
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Scott Wilson of The Washington Post.
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Q Thank you, Mr. President and President Karzai.
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Mr. President, does moving up the deadline for the transition to an Afghan security role
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lead in the spring mean you’ll be winding down U.S. troops faster than you expected
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this year? And as specifically as possible, how many troops do you expect to leave in
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Afghanistan beyond 2014 for the two missions you outlined? And would you consider leaving
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any troops in Afghanistan beyond that date without an immunity agreement for their actions?
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And, President Karzai, you’ve spoken often about the threat the American presence in
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Afghanistan poses to your nation’s sovereignty. I’m wondering if you will be considering
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and working on behalf of an immunity agreement to preserve some U.S. forces in Afghanistan
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after the 2014 date, and how many U.S. troops you would accept after that time.
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Thank you.
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PRESIDENT OBAMA: Scott, our first task has been to meet the transition plan that we set
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first in Lisbon, then in Chicago. And because of the progress that’s been made by our
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troops, because of the progress that’s been made in terms of Afghan security forces, their
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capacity to take the lead, we are able to meet those goals and accelerate them somewhat.
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So let me repeat: What’s going to happen this spring is that Afghans will be in the
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lead throughout the country. That doesn’t mean that coalition forces, including U.S.
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forces, are no longer fighting. They will still be fighting alongside Afghan troops.
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It does mean, though, that Afghans will have taken the lead, and our presence, the nature
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of our work will be different. We will be in a training, assisting, advising role.
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Obviously, we will still have troops there and that means that our men and women will
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still be in harm’s way, that there will still be the need for force protection. The
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environment is going to still be very dangerous. But what we’ve seen is, is that Afghan soldiers
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are stepping up, at great risk to themselves, and that allows us then to make this transition
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during the spring.
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What that translates into precisely in terms of how this drawdown of U.S. troop proceeds
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is something that isn’t yet fully determined. I’m going to be over the coming weeks getting
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recommendations from General Allen and other commanders on the ground. They will be designing
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and shaping a responsible plan to make sure that we’re not losing the gains that have
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already been made, to make sure that we’re in a position to support Afghan units when
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they’re in theater, and to make sure that our folks are also protected even as we’re
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drawing down.
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So I can’t give you a precise number at this point. I’ll probably make a separate
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announcement once I’ve gotten recommendations from troop -- from the generals and our commanders
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in terms of what that drawdown might look like.
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With respect to post-2014, we’ve got two goals -- and our main conversation today was
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establishing a meeting of the minds in terms of what those goals would be with a follow-on
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presence of U.S. troops. Number one, to train, assist, and advise Afghan forces so that they
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can maintain their own security; and number two, making sure that we can continue to go
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after remnants of al Qaeda or other affiliates that might threaten our homeland.
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That is a very limited mission, and it is not one that would require the same kind of
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footprint, obviously, that we’ve had over the last 10 years in Afghanistan.
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Similar to the issue of drawdown, I’m still getting recommendations from the Pentagon
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and our commanders on the ground in terms of what that would look like. And when we
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have more information about that, I will be describing that to the American people.
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I think President Karzai’s primary concern -- and obviously you’ll hear directly from
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him -- is making sure that Afghan sovereignty is respected. And if we have a follow-on force
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of any sort past 2014, it’s got to be at the invitation of the Afghan government and
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they have to feel comfortable with it.
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I will say -- and I’ve said to President Karzai -- that we have arrangements like this
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with countries all around the world, and nowhere do we have any kind of security agreement
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with a country without immunity for our troops. That’s how I, as Commander-in-Chief, can
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make sure that our folks are protected in carrying out very difficult missions.
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And so I think President Karzai understands that. I don’t want to get ahead of ourselves
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in terms of the negotiations that are still remaining on the bilateral security agreement,
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but I think it’s fair to say that, from my perspective at least, it will not be possible
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for us to have any kind of U.S. troop presence post-2014 without assurances that our men
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and women who are operating there are in some way subject to the jurisdiction of another
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country.
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PRESIDENT KARZAI: Well, sir, the bilateral security agreement is in mind for the interests
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of both countries. We understand that the issue of immunity is of very specific importance
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for the United States, as was for us the issue of sovereignty and detentions and the continued
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presence of international forces in Afghan villages and the very conduct of the war itself.
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With those issues resolved, as we did today, part of it -- the rest was done earlier -- I
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can go to the Afghan people and argue for immunity for U.S. troops in Afghanistan in
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a way that Afghan sovereignty will not be compromised, in a way that Afghan law will
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not be compromised, in a way that the provisions that we arrive at through our talks will give
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the United States the satisfaction of what it seeks and will also provide the Afghan
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people the benefits that they are seeking through this partnership and the subsequent
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agreement.
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Q Do you have any sense of how many troops you would be willing to have?
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PRESIDENT KARZAI: That’s not for us to decide. It’s an issue for the United States. Numbers
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are not going to make a difference to the situation in Afghanistan. It’s the broader
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relationship that will make a difference to Afghanistan and, beyond, in the region. The
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specifics of numbers are issues that the military will decide, and Afghanistan will have no
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particular concern when we are talking of numbers and how they are deployed.
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Any Afghan press? English-speaking press?
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Q I am Abdul Qadir, Kabul, Afghanistan. I prefer to ask my question to my own language.
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(As interpreted.) Mr. President, the missions of -- combat missions of United