Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles - As a hostage negotiator, I've worked a lot of situations where people were held against their will by some very dangerous people. - [Narrator] Today Rod is going to break down hostage scenes in movies to determine what Hollywood gets right and wrong. [intense mystery music] [police sirens wail over the TV] - What Hollywood uses for entertainment is a real-life tragedy for other people. So, to keep in mind that these are probably the most serious and most dangerous situations ever, and it's a very intense job. [TV static] - [Rod] First up, "Dog Day Afternoon." In this scene, a hostage-taker negotiates with police. - Okay well I'll come over there without a gun, you can frisk me so you can see you can trust me so we can talk and find a way out of this mess. - Right. - A hostage negotiator will always talk from a safe distance, and would never go inside a scene. But if he did, it would never be without a firearm. He would become a hostage at that point. [radio chatter] - Hey! Don't fire! Don't fire! - What are you doing? That's a hostage! [multiple people yelling] - [Radio] Don't fire, don't fire! Hold fire! - [Moretti] Don't touch him! That's our plan! - We voted to send him out! He's one of the hostages! - Get away from him! What's the matter with you? - In situations that are tense like this, there's always a possibility for miscommunication. That's clearly what happened here. The hostage-taker said he only had women. - How about giving us a woman? - No, I got women, that's all I got here. - But he sent out a man and the police weren't sure whether or not that man was a hostage taker or a criminal. So they immediately rushed him. That's common. It's common when signals get crossed or mixed up and it's hard to distinguish who's the good guy or who's the bad guy. - Now wait a minute, Sonny, Sonny, that wasn't your fault, Sonny, you know that we had a communication set up here. We haven't got it set up properly, we got 250 cops here. They don't know what the fuck is going on in there. - You almost killed him are you crazy? - Clearly he's using the woman as a human shield. Human shields are not used very often. But in this case he was trying to limit his exposure to police. And if they were to try to snipe him, or take him out, he'd have another person as cover. - Come on out and frisk me. You can tell. Huh? Come on. - [Hostage Taker] So what do you want me to come out for? - Come on, why don't you come out and look at something. Come on. I want you to see what you're up against. - I can see you. What do I gotta come out for? - [Negotiator] I want you to come out and see it all, all right? - In a real life scenario, there would be a command center and there would be one person calling the shots and everybody else kind of provide the support role. This is just chaos. And I think it's great for cinema but in real life it would never happen. [television static] Next up, Captain Phillips. In this scene, the Navy has been sent in to check on the well being of a hostage that has been taken by some Somalian terrorists. [shouting in foreign language] [terrorists shout in foreign language] - Guns down! Americans guns down! [shouting in foreign language] - Put your guns down now. - So this is based off a true story so it's pretty accurate. What they're doing is they're gathering intel. So you'll see in this scene, where there's a camera, and there's a lot of surveillance type equipment there. That's for the Navy to find out what the layout is and how they can actually approach and attack this vessel. - Does my family know where I am? - Yes, [audio unclear] - [Hostage] It's important they know where I am. I'm in seat 15. You understand? - What was really interesting was when the captain told the Navy where he was sitting. And the reason he said that is because anyone anywhere else in that boat could be taken out he just wanted them to know where he was. [speaking in foreign language] - Where is the money? I don't want your food, I want your money. - Maintain camera footage. - Hold on a second. - Ten million dollars. Ten million dollars. [speaking in foreign language] [shouting in foreign language] - So the reason you're not seeing a lot of time taken a lot of negotiation going on is because it's really more of a strategic plan to find out where they are and how to strike and attack. The thing to keep in mind is that America does not negotiate with terrorists or hostage takers. And that's just a matter of national policy. [television static] Next up, Airheads. [knocks on door] - Who are you? - Chris Moore, Capital Records, ANR. Come on, let me in. - [Rod] In this scene, law enforcement tries to negotiate with criminals who have overtaken a radio station. - The cops told me you guys are looking for a record contract. There's something going on here we gotta take immediate advantage of, guys. Come on, let's talk, huh? - It's pretty common for law enforcement to come up with a different ruse to try to make something happen. But one thing law enforcement would never do is send in a civilian or someone into a hostage taker's domain. It's just not gonna happen. Hostage takers are unpredictable. And one thing we don't want to do is expose anybody to any danger. - All right, let me ask you a question. What side you take in the big David Lee Roth Van Halen split? - What do you mean? - What kind of question is that? - What side did you take? Halen or Roth? - Van Halen. - He's a cop. - Clearly this guy is a cop and not a music professional because everyone knows that David Lee Roth was Van Halen. The problem with using a ruse or some sort of undercover officer is being found out. Once you're found out, then you probably made an irreversible mistake. The hostage takers will no longer have any trust or respect and that makes the situation a lot more hazardous. - You put the power back on. - No, I'm not gonna do that, Chaz, I'm drawing the line there. - In hostage situations, sometimes utilities are turned off to make the person inside uncomfortable. Turning them back on is probably never gonna happen. Regardless of the situation. It's just not gonna happen. We make them cold, dark, off guard, want them to be a little hungry. Put them in desperate situations. - Is everyone having a good time tonight? [crowd cheers] Now, you wanna let the cops shut this party down? [crowd boos] We got the guns, we got the numbers! [crowd cheers] - Hostage takers would never come outside and expose themselves to law enforcement like that. The minute they give a clear shot, they're gonna be shot. There's no way that would ever happen. [television static] Next up, Inside Man. In this scene, a bank robber challenges law enforcement to solve a riddle. - [Voice On Phone] What do you want me to say? - That my plane is ready. - Okay, listen. I promise you, as God as my witness, I'm working on it as hard as I can. It's just gonna take a few more hours. - So what you see here is a person asking for a mode of transportation. In this case an airplane. Which seems kind of outrageous. And the hostage taker may be a little delusional and think that these things are actually going to happen. So what law enforcement is gonna do here is delay and stall and try to keep him calm and not go into a tail spin and injuring someone. So as long as he believes that there is going to be an airplane coming, it may buy law enforcement some time to try to work out the situation. But the reality is, is that you don't see a lot of people requesting airplanes. Probably because most of them can't fly airplanes. - Why should I give you any more time? - Well it's simple, you give me more time, you get what you want. You don't give me the time, you don't get what you want. You got nothing to lose. [paper rustles] Meanwhile, we'll send in some more food. - Typically, in situations like this you always notice the hostage taker beginning to become uncomfortable. And in a lot of instances, we want to keep them uncomfortable. Something like food, though, we want to dangle it out there and not necessarily give it to them, it's just a matter of keeping them calm and giving them something to aspire to rather than going through a tail spin in a crisis situation and actually start hurting people. - I got a question for you. You get it right, I give you more time. - [Voice On Phone] And? - You know what happens if you don't.