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Transcriber: Ivana Korom Reviewer: Joanna Pietrulewicz
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In the summer of 2014,
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I found myself sitting across from a man
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who, by every definition, was my enemy.
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His name was Craig Watts,
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and he's a chicken factory farmer.
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My career is devoted to protecting farmed animals
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and ending factory farming.
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And up until this point in my life,
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I had spent every waking moment
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standing up against everything this man stood for,
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and now, I was in his living room.
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The day I met Craig Watts
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he had been raising chickens for 22 years
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for a company called Perdue,
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the fourth largest chicken company in the entire country.
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And as a young man,
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he had yearned for this way to stay on the land
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in one of the poorest counties in the state.
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So when the chicken industry came to town,
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he thought, "This is a dream come true."
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He took a quarter of a million dollar loan out,
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and he built these chicken houses.
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Perdue would give him a flock, he'd raise them,
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and each flock he'd get paid,
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and then he'd pay off in small increments that loan,
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like a mortgage.
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But pretty soon, the chickens got sick.
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It's a factory farm, after all,
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there are 25,000 chickens
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that are stuffed wall-to-wall,
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living on their own feces, breathing ammonia-laden air.
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And when chickens get sick, some of them die.
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And you don't get paid for dead chickens,
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and Craig started to struggle to pay off his loan,
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he realized he made a mistake,
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but he was all but an indentured servant at this stage.
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When I met him, he was at a breaking point.
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The payments seemed never-ending.
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As did the death,
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despair and illness of his chickens.
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Now, if we humans tried to think of some super unjust,
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unfair, filthy and cruel food system,
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we could not have thought of anything worse than factory farming.
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Eighty billion farmed animals around the world annually
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are raised and slaughtered.
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They're stuffed in cages and warehouses never to see the light of day.
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And that's not just a problem for those farmed animals.
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Animal agriculture,
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it accounts for more greenhouse gas emissions
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than all of the planes, trains and automobiles put together.
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And one third of our arable land is used
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to grow feed to feed factory-farmed animals,
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rather than ourselves.
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And all that land is sprayed with immeasurable chemicals.
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And ecologically important habitats,
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like the Amazon,
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are cut down and are burnt,
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all so we can feed and house farmed animals.
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By the time my three kids grow up,
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there's very unlikely to be polar bears,
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Sumatran elephants, orangutans.
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In my lifetime,
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the number of birds, amphibians, reptiles and mammals has halved.
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And the main culprit
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is our global appetite for meat, dairy and eggs.
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And for me, up until this point,
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the villain was Craig Watts.
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And as I sat there in his living room,
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my fear and my anger turned into something else.
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Shame.
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My whole life I had spent blaming him,
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hating him,
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I even wished him ill.
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I had never once
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thought about his struggle, his choices.
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Could he be a potential ally?
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I never had thought
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he feels as trapped as the chickens.
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So we had been sitting there for hours
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and the midday turned into afternoon,
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turned into dusk, turned into darkness,
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and he suddenly said,
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"OK, are you ready to see the chickens?"
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So under the cover of darkness,
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we walked towards one of these long, gray houses.
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And he swung open the door
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and we stepped inside,
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and we were hit with this overpowering smell
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and every muscle in my body tensed up
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and I coughed and my eyes teared.
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I was too overwhelmed by my own physical discomfort,
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I didn't even look around at first,
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but when I did,
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what I saw brought me to tears.
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Tens of thousands of newly hatched chicks
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in this darkened warehouse
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with nowhere to go and nothing to do.
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Over the next few months, I returned many times,
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with filmmaker Raegan Hodge,
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to record, to understand,
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to build trust with Craig.
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And I walked his houses with him
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as he picked up dead and dying birds,
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birds with messed-up legs and trouble breathing
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and difficulty walking.
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And all of this we caught on film.
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And then we decided to do something
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I don't think either he or I ever expected to do when we first met.
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We decided to release that footage.
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And that was really risky for both of us.
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It was risky for him because he could lose his income,
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his home, his land, his neighbors hating him.
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And I could risk getting my organization sued,
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or being the reason that he would lose everything,
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but we had to do it anyway.
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"The New York Times" broke the story
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and within 24 hours,
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a million people had seen our video.
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It went viral by every definition,
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and suddenly we had this global platform
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for talking about factory farming.
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And working with Craig got me thinking.
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What other unlikely allies are out there?
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What other progress,
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what other lessons can I learn if I cross those enemy lines?
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The first lesson I learned
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is that we have to become comfortable with being uncomfortable.
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Only talking to people who agree with us,
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it's not going to get us to the solution.
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We have to be willing to enter other people's space.
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Because quite often,
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the enemy has the power to change the problem
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that we're trying to solve.
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In my case, I'm not in charge of a single chicken.
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The farmer is and so are the meat companies.
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So I need to enter their space if I want to solve the problem.
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And a couple of years after working with Craig,
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I did something again I never expected to do.
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I sat down with an even bigger so-called enemy:
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Jim Perdue himself.
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The man I had made the villain of my viral video.
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And again, through difficult conversations
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and being uncomfortable,
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Perdue came out with the first animal care policy
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of any poultry company.
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In it, they agreed to do
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some of the things we had criticized them for not doing in the viral video,
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like put windows into houses.
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And pay for them.
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And that was a really important lesson for me.
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The second lesson
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is that when we sit down to negotiate
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with the enemy,
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we need to remember, there's a human being in front of us
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that very likely has more in common with us
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than we care to admit.
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And I learned this firsthand
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when I was invited to visit at a major poultry company's headquarters.
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And it was the first time that my organization had been invited,
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and any organization had been invited, to visit with them.
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And as we walked through the corridor,
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there were literally people who were peeking our from the cubicles
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to get a quick look at what does an animal rights activist look like,
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and we walked --
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I look like this, so I don't know what they were expecting.
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(Laughter)
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But as we walked into the boardroom,
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there was an executive who was in charge, sitting there.
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And his arms were crossed
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and he did not want me to be there.
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And I flipped open my laptop,
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and my background photo came up,
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and it was a picture of my three kids.
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My daughter clearly looks different than my sons.
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And when he saw that photo he uncrossed his arms
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and he tilted his head and he leaned forward and he said,
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"Are those your kids?"
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And I said, "Yeah.
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I just got back from adopting my daughter -- "
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And I babbled on way too much for a professional meeting.
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And he stopped me and he said,
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"I have two adopted kids."
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And for the next 20 minutes,
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we just talked about that.
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We talked about adoption and being a parent
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and in those moments,
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we forgot who we were supposed to be
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at that table.
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And the walls came down,
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and a bridge was built and we crossed this divide.
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And more progress was made with that company
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because of that human connection that we made.
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My last lesson for you
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is that when we sit down with the so-called enemy,
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we need to look for the win-win.
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Instead of going in with farmers like Craig Watts
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and thinking, "I need to put them out of farming,"
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I started to think how can I help them be different kinds of farmers,
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like, growing hemp or mushrooms.
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And a farmer I later worked with did exactly that.
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He did do the exposé with me and filmed,
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and we went with "The New York Times" again,
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but he went beyond that.
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He quit chicken factory farming,
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and it turns out
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that those big, long, gray warehouses
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are the perfect environment
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for growing something else.
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(Laughter)
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(Applause)
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That's hemp, people, that's hemp.
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(Laughter)
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Here is an environmentally friendly way to stay on the land,
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to pay the bills,
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that a vegan animal rights activist
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and a chicken farmer can get behind.
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(Laughter)
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And instead of thinking,
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how can I get these big meat companies out of business,
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I started thinking, how can I help them evolve into a different kind of business.
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One where the protein doesn't come from slaughtered animals,
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but rather, plants.
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And believe it or not,
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these big companies are starting to move their ships in that direction.
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Cargill and Tyson and Perdue are adding plant-based proteins
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into their supply chain.
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And Perdue himself said that,
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"Our company is a premium protein company,
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and nothing about that says that it has to come from animals."
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And in my own home town of Atlanta,
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KFC did a one-day trial with Beyond Meat,
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for plant-based chicken nuggets.
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And it was insane,
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there were lines wrapped around the corner,
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there was traffic stopped in all directions,
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you would think they were giving out free Beyoncé tickets.
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People are ready for this shift.
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We need to build a big tent
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that everyone can get under.
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From the chicken factory farmer,
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to the mega meat company,
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to the animal rights activist.
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And these lessons,
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they can apply to many causes,
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whether it be with a problem with an ex,
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a neighbor or an in-law.
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Or with some of the biggest problems of exploitation and oppression,
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like factory farming,
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or misogyny or racism or climate change.
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The world's smallest and biggest problems,