You know, look, Navy Seals aren't superheroes.

I've just been trained to do this job really well, and we do it really well.

Whereas a lot of other seals and I've had a few on, I don't know, I always we feel like there is this superhero air about it, and you seem to kind of cut through and just say, Hey, I can talk about my things and were highly trained, But I'm also kind of a normal guy.

I don't know.

Do I get that vibe from you difference?

Or is that is that you and your personality?

You know, I get asked all the time about the seal community, and I am always asked about my career and my take on speaking about my own career.

I feel I feel that truly you should be judged by your peers, and I actually shouldn't be able to give you a grade on.

You know, If I were to give you an academic grade on my career from a to F, I would give myself a C or a C minus.

And now that's not to say that I wasn't surrounded by people who did seem like superheroes because I personally felt that way.

I was surrounded by people who were more physically capable than me.

They were much more intelligent and articulate than me.

They were better at shooting at decision making, admission, planning it, Scott, fill in the blank.

So there are certainly are There are people out there on both ends of the spectrum.

You know, the seal community is a bell curve.

There is a bottom 10% and there is a top 10% and then 80% or so in the middle.

And, you know, perhaps you have sat down with more people who were at the top end of the bell curve.

When you're sitting down and talking with me, we're going towards the other end of the bell curve.

I'm the guy who tried to have a career is a gray man, somebody who didn't arrive on any radar screen of any kind.

I tried to do my job.

I tried to do my job well, I tried to enable mission success and not hold the people back who are around me.

But I didn't really feel capable of doing much more than that.

So there certainly are what I would consider to be some superheroes in that community.

I just don't feel like I am one myself.