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  • -Have you ever been in any moment like this in your career,

  • and would you compare this to anything?

  • -I mean, I went through Ferguson.

  • I went through Freddie Gray in Baltimore.

  • I've been in, you know, in the middle of it.

  • As we're talking about people who are protesting

  • and that sort of thing. -Yeah.

  • -But I have not been in anything that is this surreal

  • and where we're really -- we're at a precipice right now.

  • We're at a moment where people need to understand

  • that, if you believe in law and order,

  • then you need to believe

  • in equal treatment by the law, right?

  • If you care about keeping law and order,

  • then you need to care about lives

  • as much as you care about property.

  • And so, if you're concerned and upset

  • about property being lost and things being burned,

  • which is -- which is -- it should not be happening.

  • I'm not condoning that --

  • but you should care equally

  • about the lives that have been lost.

  • And if you -- -Yeah.

  • -And when someone says,

  • "I don't -- I don't condone the action,

  • I don't agree with the action, but I understand the anger,"

  • right?

  • And then the --

  • the answer to that or the response to that is,

  • "Well, then, yes, you are --

  • then you are telling people to go out there and riot."

  • No, I'm not telling people to go out there and riot.

  • But tell me what the proportional response

  • to mass murder over the years is.

  • What is a proportional response to that?

  • -Yeah. -When you -- When you --

  • When people have --

  • Dr. King wanted peaceful nonviolence.

  • They killed him.

  • Things got marginally better. We got --

  • Well, things got better, but not perfect.

  • We never reached the Dr. King dream.

  • And then let's just move forward to Colin Kaepernick,

  • who got -- who sought the advice of a war veteran,

  • took a knee, peacefully protested

  • during the national anthem. -Totally peaceful.

  • -Totally peaceful.

  • Knee, right?

  • The metaphor -- I mean, it writes itself,

  • and then you have the knee now. -Yeah.

  • -So if you don't want people to protest peacefully,

  • if you don't get anything -- he got fired.

  • He lost his job in the NFL, was castigated.

  • The president called him son -- a son -- sons of bitches --

  • right? -- with --

  • and all the other people in the NFL.

  • And then, when people are upset because it happens --

  • the very thing that he was fighting for

  • happens in front of our very eyes

  • and people become upset and they take to the streets

  • and they start to protest,

  • and then you say,

  • "Well, why aren't you protesting peacefully?"

  • Well, we -- they -- you tried.

  • So what would -- what do you have people do...

  • -Yeah. -...who are trying to have

  • their issues looked at?

  • What do you -- What would you have them do?

  • The government's not doing it. -Yeah.

  • -So what do you do?

  • You can't -- You're gonna --

  • You want to tell people how to protest,

  • but you can't accept either doing it peacefully or not.

  • And so, if there is no avenue

  • to protest peacefully or to protest not peacefully,

  • then that means that you have made a calculation in your head

  • that black people in this country

  • have no means -- or to have rights,

  • the same rights that you have,

  • especially when it comes to the police department --

  • or just at all --

  • 'cause you can't protest peacefully,

  • and you can't get radical, as you would call it.

  • So, then, what's -- what -- what's the means?

  • What do you do?

  • -Is there anything you've seen from the past week

  • that maybe is a silver lining or anything positive or...?

  • -Yes, that this country is broken,

  • or maybe it needs to be broken in order to fix it.

  • And maybe that's what we're doing right now.

  • I don't like seeing all the violence,

  • I don't like seeing the rioting, but I do --

  • I am heartened by all the young people who are out there,

  • fighting for their rights,

  • and who are saying enough is enough

  • and the time has come,

  • and by the diversity of people who are out there.

  • It's not just black kids, it's not just kids of color --

  • it's white kids out there, too --

  • young people and older people, and they've had enough.

  • And I think that maybe it has to break all the way down

  • so that we can fix it and put it back together.

  • And I know some people may think that sounds ominous,

  • but, for me, that's positive -- that's a glass half-full,

  • 'cause we cannot go back to the way it was.

  • We can't.

  • -Don Lemon, keep crushing it.

  • And I really -- I watch you every single night.

  • Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for all of this.

  • And I can't wait to talk to you, hopefully in person, soon.

  • -Yes, absolutely.

  • Thank you, my brother. -Bye, bud.

-Have you ever been in any moment like this in your career,

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Don Lemon Talks About the Protests Against Racial Police Violence

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