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Our next guest is an actress and bestselling
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author who just wrote a new children's book.
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Please welcome Gabrielle Union.
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[CLAPPING]
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Yay.
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Yeah, let me give you applause.
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I have applause here.
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[SOUND BITE OF CHEERING, APPLAUSE]
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There.
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Just to make it--
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yeah.
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It's so good to see you.
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I haven't seen you in a while.
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And this is what I've heard.
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I've heard that that-- well I knew that Dwayne, your husband,
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retired.
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But I hear that maybe you're ready for this quarantine
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to end so he could go do some other things.
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I need the vaccine yesterday.
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I mean, this is, like, his dream.
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He retired so he could be with the family.
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So he's living the dream.
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He's super well adjusted to this new normal.
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And this is my nightmare.
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To be honest, Ellen, it's actually my nightmare.
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Oh, well, I bet a lot of women would
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love to have that nightmare.
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He's a great guy.
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And he was on the show recently, and talking
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about your daughter, Zaya, and her transition.
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And I know this is silly to say, because who doesn't love
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their children unconditionally-- but I guess a lot of people
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don't--
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but it's so amazing how supportive you've both been.
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Yeah, I mean, to us, it's a little odd
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to get any kind of recognition for doing what you're
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supposed to do, which is love, and accept, and embrace
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your kids.
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So it's odd to get recognition for that.
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But unfortunately, there are so many people who just don't.
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They just don't.
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And so many people who really truly feel like their kids
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are disposable.
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If they're not perfect images of them, they're not interested.
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And it's heartbreaking.
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So for us, we're just doing what is natural to us,
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and loving her.
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There she is.
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There's our girl.
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[CHUCKLES]
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But yeah, we just want happy, healthy, compassionate kids.
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So that's what we-- we try to lead with that.
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And Zaya is very, very lucky to have both of you as parents.
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And it is unfortunate that a lot of people
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have children thinking they can mold them and make them
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who they want them to be, and have
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a certain idea of what they're supposed to turn out like.
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But they all turn out different.
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And speaking of that, you have a new baby
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that I've seen pictures of--
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OK, so it's the most adorable baby,
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and yet I've never seen a more serious baby in my life.
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She's like the George Carlin of babies.
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That is our little nugget.
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She's pure comedy, but absolutely dead serious.
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She's just stone face.
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She is unbothered and unimpressed at all times.
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Exactly.
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Yeah, so she has her own Instagram.
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How many followers does she have, like a million?
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I think she's at 1.2.
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Yeah.
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1.2 million.
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Andy--
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Yeah.
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How many Instagram followers do you have?
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Not that.
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I don't know.
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But definitely nowhere close.
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How old is the baby?
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A year and a half, right?
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She's almost a year and a half, yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Year and a half.
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Good for her.
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[CHUCKLES]
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He's very angry.
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So she's a year and a half almost.
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And she jumps into a pool.
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Now, has she had swimming lessons?
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Was that something that you let her do?
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Yeah, we started swim at, like, five months old.
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So she's had some experience now.
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Oh yeah.
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Look at her go.
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Wow.
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She looked like a little sperm.
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I can jump in the water.
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Just going.
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Just like a little sperm.
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Andy, she said she looked like a little sperm.
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[ALL CHUCKLES]
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Just like that.
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That's what a sperm swims like, like that.
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Exactly.
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She really wasn't using her arms.
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So it was really just all her little legs.
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Right.
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I want to hear about the children's book, Ellen.
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OK, Andy.
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I'll ask her about the children's book.
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Let's talk about the children's book.
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Yes.
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"Welcome to the Party."
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"Welcome to the Party."
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Yeah.
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Why did you want to write it?
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You know, we wanted to be able to show Kaav--
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aw, there she is--
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that we were so excited for her, and we
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were so excited to welcome her into this family.
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Even though she was sort of brought into our lives
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in a more nontraditional way, we wanted
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to celebrate her in the same way that every baby--
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or most babies are sort of celebrated and cheered on.
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And from there, we started thinking
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about my mom, who at 60 years old,
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adopted three kids in successive years.
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And she's now 73, with teens and preteens.
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And there's no one that really celebrates
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different kinds of family creation,
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whether you have a chosen family.
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So as an LGBTQ-plus ally, I see a lot of my friends
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have chosen families.
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And nobody really celebrates them.
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And I want to be able to celebrate all of our families,
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no matter how they're created.
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And just letting everyone know that they are welcome
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at this party called life.
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And we wanted to start the little, little guys
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off knowing that they're welcome and they're celebrated.
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What a great book.
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What a great, important book to read to kids.
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And I have to go back to your mother, at 60.
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Yeah.
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Wait, so at 60 years old, she got how many babies?
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So she adopted her first child at 60.
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And then, the next year, another baby girl.
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So she has two girls.
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And then a couple of years later, she adopted her son
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and my little brother, Amari.
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And so now she's 73, divorced, single parent,
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raising two teens and a preteen at 73, all on her own.
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And there's not a lot of people that
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are going (ENTHUSIASTICALLY) yeah, way to go.
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And there's certainly not children's books
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that celebrate--
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we create families and all different kinds of ways.
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And they're not all celebrated.
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If it's not the traditional way, we just
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don't have the words, or the language,
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or even books that kind of help us
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navigate being OK with celebrating
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all kinds of different families.
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That's fantastic.
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This book should be mandatory reading for every children's
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pre-school.
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It really should.
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I agree with Andy.
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That should be mandatory reading for parents and schools.
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Because what an important message to send.
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We're going to take a break.
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And when we come back we are going to play a game.
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Yes.
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We'll be back.