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  • Our next guest is not only an NBA legend.

  • He's a New York Times best selling author

  • and a political activist.

  • Please welcome the incredible Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

  • Hi, there.

  • How are you doing, Ellen?

  • I'm OK.

  • Thanks for taking the time to talk.

  • We met at the White House.

  • We were both receiving our presidential medal of freedom

  • at the same time.

  • Yes.

  • And that was quite an honor.

  • It was a wonderful time, and I thought

  • it was well thought out.

  • Yeah, it was a great day, and to receive it from Obama

  • was like the best the best thing ever.

  • And boy, do we miss him right now.

  • Tell me about it.

  • Yeah, I know.

  • What question do you think is not being asked in the media

  • right now?

  • What's missing?

  • How do we move forward from here?

  • We have to figure out a way, Ellen, to deal with bad cops.

  • There needs to be a legal solution to that, I think.

  • And the sooner that we can get the political will

  • to make that happen, it'll reduce

  • a lot of these instances.

  • Yeah, and it's also--

  • you know, people bring this up that Colin Kaepernick protested

  • this for this exact same reason.

  • Yes.

  • And he was ostracized.

  • He lost his job, and he was just trying to point this out.

  • Yeah, it goes to show you how culturally we are.

  • We're conditioned not to want to talk about that, because it's

  • such a difficult problem.

  • And we have to talk about that problem,

  • if we're going to solve it.

  • So maybe now, you know, with this horrible incident

  • with Mr. Floyd, we can find the political will

  • to talk about these issues and work for the elimination

  • of these circumstances.

  • And we'll move many steps forward, if we can do that.

  • Yeah, we're all hoping for that.

  • You wrote a powerful op-ed called

  • Don't Understand The Protests, and what you're seeing

  • is people have just been pushed to the edge.

  • This is what you're saying.

  • Absolutely.

  • People that have no means to call attention

  • to their problems, so they've been pushed too far.

  • And one of the things that is really galling and just

  • is so tiresome that black citizens end up

  • dead for no good reason.

  • It started in my life when I was eight years old when

  • Emmett Till got killed.

  • That was 1955, and it still happens on a regular basis.

  • We've got to figure out a way to change that dynamic.

  • You met Dr. King.

  • Yeah.

  • What do you remember about meeting him?

  • Well, I was working at a journalism workshop,

  • and I got a chance to cover Dr. King speaking

  • to a group of kids that were being mentored.

  • It was wonderful to hear him say that he thought a great job was

  • being done, because we already were thinking about how to make

  • our community a better place.

  • And you know, that's what needs to take place

  • across black communities across the nation,

  • and it was really inspiring.

  • And it really helped me get a better grip

  • on what Dr. King was doing and why.

  • What a great thing to have that memory to have met him

  • and to have that.

Our next guest is not only an NBA legend.

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