We can have meetings and spread the gospel online.

- In the past, that was— - Li Rui! Li Rui!

There you are!

Did you see?

There's an uproar!

Where's the uproar?

There's an uproar in our church discussion group!

- Take a look at it! - An uproar in our group?

It looks like Brother Zhang posted a question and wants to discuss it with everyone.

Yes!

My goodness!

Does this look like a normal question?

Does the Trinity really exist?

Does it exist?

He's actually questioning the Trinity.

That's a serious issue!

And now everyone is posting responses!

Of course they are!

Look at this post.

"Are you serious?

We believe in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Isn't that the Trinity?"

That's right.

"This is the foundation of our faith.

What gives you the self-confidence, or the courage, or the basis

to doubt the Trinity? Brother Zhang."

"What's going on here?

Brother Zhang has worked and preached for more than 30 years,

and he understands the Bible."

That's right.

"I don't know

how could he possibly doubt the Trinity?"

"Exactly.

Why? Brother Zhang,

why don't you believe in the existence of the Trinity?"

Even Brother Peter can't keep quiet.

It looks like Brother Chen is keeping his composure best.

"Everyone, take it easy,

you all need to simply calm down."

Well … this …

"Brother Zhang is a thoughtful and insightful person.

There must be a reason he posted this question."

I can't.

Hey, come back, come back!

Where are you going?

To ask Brother Zhang in person.

I want to ask him why he doubts the Trinity.

This is …

Oh!

Then don't bother going.

Huh?

I already went and asked him.

Then hurry up and tell me what's going on here!

It was the first thing I asked him.

Brother Zhang,

our pastor has told us since childhood that God is a Trinity—

The pastor has told us that since he was a child?

Since we were children,

we've heard the pastor say that God is a Trinity.

Yes.

Have you forgotten that?

That's something everyone knows by heart!

"It's said

that over 300 years after the Lord came, at the Council of Nicaea,

religious leaders from every nation intensely debated whether God is One or a Trinity.

The Council ended without a result.

Later, after more than a century of hard, bitter debate,

the Trinitarian theory of God was finally settled upon,

and only then did it become the unshakable belief of Christianity."

You see?

Do you see?

Do you see how hard it was

for the religious leaders to come to an agreement on the Trinitarian theory?

Right.

- It was really, really hard! - Right.

So what did Brother Zhang have to say to that?

"Mm. Look!

It's a shame!"

What?

"It's a shame that the theory of God the religious leaders worked so hard to come up with

doesn't have any basis in the Lord Jesus' words."

It does not?

Does it?

Has the Lord Jesus ever said God is a Trinity?

The Lord Jesus …

Did He say it?

No, He didn't say it.

Then did the Holy Spirit say it?

Mm, no.

Did any prophets or apostles in the Bible ever testify that God is a Trinity?

No, they did not.

"There is only one true God.

God never said He is a Trinity,

and there is no record of it in the Bible,

so where does the religious world get the self-confidence, the courage, or the basis to insist

that God is a Trinity?"

We're back to his original question.

What matters is whether what Brother Zhang said is logical.

It may well be logical,

but the … the Trinitarian theory

didn't come out of nowhere.

It actually has a basis.

What is that basis?

Well,

Yeah!

You and I are like two peas in a pod.

Great minds think alike!

That's right!

The pastors and elders of the religious world

expounded the Trinitarian theory based on

the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit

mentioned in the Bible.

That's right!

He's playing our pastor now.

"Brothers and sisters,

let me explain why we say that God is a Trinity.

It is because God is composed of the three different persons

of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Right.

Each person contains God's complete divinity,

and they exist together as equals in one being.

That's right.

Even if the three persons which make up the Trinity are different,

they are still just one God, not three Gods."

If you said that to Brother Zhang, he would have been speechless, right?

Speechless, yes.

- Exactly right! - But I was speechless.

Huh?

You were the one speechless?

But …

Brother Li,

But did the Lord Jesus say that They are a Trinity?

Did He say that there are three persons in God?

No, He didn't.

But doesn't the idea of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit mean that?

Doesn't that prove that God is made up of three different persons?

If that's your logic then,

let me ask you:

Who is the Father?

Jehovah God!

Who is the Son?

The Lord Jesus!

And the Holy Spirit?

Ha!

The Holy Spirit is the Holy Spirit, that's …

Then is the Father the Holy Spirit?

Yes.

Is the Son's essence the Holy Spirit?

The Lord Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit,

so of course His essence was the Holy Spirit.

Then are the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit all the same Spirit?

They're obviously all one Spirit!

Then since They're one, why do we say They are three persons?

Surely three persons mean three separate Spirits?

But …

And three separate Spirits mean three separate Gods?

But …

And doesn't that contradict the fact that there is one true God?

Is this how Brother Zhang fellowshiped with you?

Hold on, I need a minute.

Think on it.

There is only one God,

and only one Holy Spirit.

Right.

God is a Trinity, so He is three persons.

Three persons mean three Gods.

And three Gods mean three Spirits.

That's not right.

One?

Three?

Three?

One?

Huh?

- Why is there a contradiction here? - You went from one God to three.

- Of course there's a contradiction! - This, this, this …

There can't be a contradiction.

And why is that?

It's true that there's only one God…

Right.

…however…

However …

…the one God is made up of three parts—

the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

These three parts put together make the complete God,

and only that can be called God Himself.

Oh!

Yes!

If you had said that to Brother Zhang,

he would have been speechless!

That's exactly what I said to him!

Oh yeah?

And it was still me who was left speechless.

You see?

Wait, what?

What did he say that left you speechless again? This is …

"Brother Li,

there is only one God,

and God only has one Spirit.

According to the theory of the Trinity,

the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit each have Their own distinct essence

and each One is a distinct person,

which means that God is made up of three parts."

Yes.

"Doesn't that mean three Gods and three Spirits?

How could three separate Spirits join to become one?"

Just like the three cups of water can be poured into one,

the three Spirits can also join together.

Oh!

So the three Spirits can be poured together to make one just like three cups of water?

Is there any mistake in that understanding?

I wouldn't call it a mistake,

I'd call it complete nonsense!

Hey!

Aren't you turning God's Spirit into physical matter?

Can we just divide up and combine God's Spirit however we please?

But if we don't combine God's Spirits into one,

is He still the one true God?

Then by the theory of the Trinity,

all three have to be put together to be God.

So then, if They aren't put together,

They aren't God on Their own?

Well …

That …

Huh?

By the theory of the Trinity,

if we don't put Them together,

would that then mean that Jehovah God isn't the one true God?

That's …

According to the theory of the Trinity,

if we don't put Them together, the Holy Spirit isn't God?

According to the theory of the Trinity,

if we don't put Them together, Lord Jesus isn't God?

According to the theory of the Trinity—

Wait, wait, wait.

That's enough.

What's the matter?

Why is it that the more you talk, the more panicked I feel?

If we go by the theory of the Trinity,

it appears as if we're denying the one true God.

Isn't that exactly it?

The religious world separates God into three parts, three persons,

and then joins them into one being.

Isn't that dividing God?

Isn't that denying that God is the one true God?

Then that means the theory of the Trinity

really doesn't hold up?

Therefore,

when the religious community explains the Trinity with the Lord Jesus' words,

"baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,"

they are misinterpreting the Lord's words.

I see …

Then can you please tell me how we should understand the Lord's words?

Actually,

in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit

is in the name of God.

Yes,

that's right.

Bluntly speaking,