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  • SHANNON PETTYPIECE OUTSIDE THE

  • WHITE HOUSE FOR US THIS MORNING.

  • SHANNON, THANKS SO MUCH.

  • >>> LET'S WALK THROUGH SOME OF

  • THE POLLING THAT JOE WAS TALKING

  • ABOUT A MINUTE AGO.

  • IN THE NEWEST MONMOUTH

  • UNIVERSITY NATIONAL POLL, JOE

  • BIDEN HOLDS AN 11-POINT LEAD

  • OVER PRESIDENT TRUMP.

  • 52% TO 41%.

  • VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN CONTINUES

  • TO DO WELL AMONG KEY VOTING

  • GROUPS, INCLUDING VOTERS 65 AND

  • OLDER AND WOMEN.

  • THE PRESIDENT LEADS AMONG VOTERS

  • 50 TO 64 YEARS OLD, AS WELL AS

  • WITH WHITE VOTERS WITHOUT A

  • COLLEGE DEGREE.

  • JOE BIDEN ALSO LEADS PRESIDENT

  • TRUMP IN THE KEY BATTLEGROUND

  • STATES OF WISCONSIN, OHIO, AND

  • ARIZONA, ALL STATES THE

  • PRESIDENT WON IN 2016.

  • ACCORDING TO NEW POLLS FROM FOX

  • NEWS, BIDEN IS UP NINE POINTS IN

  • WISCONSIN, 49% TO 40%.

  • IN OHIO, BIDEN NARROWLY LEADS BY

  • TWO POINTS, 45% TO 43%.

  • THAT'S WITHIN THE MARGIN OF

  • ERROR.

  • THEY ARE TIED THERE.

  • IN ARIZONA, SIMILAR STORY, WHERE

  • BIDEN IS UP FOUR POINTS, 46% TO

  • 42%.

  • IN THIS STATE'S SENATE RACE,

  • DEMOCRAT MARK KELLY IS NOW

  • LEADING REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT

  • SENATOR MARTHA McSALLY, 50% TO

  • 37%.

  • A 13-POINT SPREAD ACCORDING TO

  • FOX NEWS.

  • THINGS ALSO GETTING CLOSE IN

  • TEXAS, ACCORDING TO THE LATEST

  • QUINNIPIAC POLL.

  • ONLY ONE POINT SEPARATES THE

  • CONTENDERS.

  • DONALD TRUMP UP 44%.

  • JOE BIDEN AT 43%.

  • THEY ARE TIED RIGHT NOW IN THE

  • STATE OF TEXAS.

  • YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT DONALD

  • TRUMP WON TEXAS IN 2016 BY TEN

  • POINTS.

  • THIS, JOE, THESE POLLS WE WALKED

  • THROUGH, COMBINED WITH OTHERS,

  • IS WHY YOU'RE SEEING REPORTS OF

  • PEOPLE BEING CONCERNED WHEN THEY

  • LOOK AT THE MAP AROUND PRESIDENT

  • TRUMP.

  • >> WELL, THEY HAVE A REASON TO

  • BE CONCERNED.

  • WILLIE, IT IS VERY INTERESTING

  • THAT RICHARD HAASS, EARLY IN

  • THIS PANDEMIC, HAD A GREAT

  • INSIGHT.

  • THE INSIGHT WAS THAT THE

  • PANDEMIC IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE

  • HISTORY, IT IS GOING TO

  • ACCELERATE HISTORY.

  • PEOPLE WHO HAVE STUDIED POLLS

  • AND POLITICS FOR YEARS HAVE

  • SAID, RIGHTLY, THAT THREE STATES

  • IN THE SUN BELT WERE GOING TO

  • SHIFT AND BECOME MORE BLUE OVER

  • TIME.

  • THEY WERE GOING TO GO FROM

  • RELIABLY RED STATES TO PURPLE

  • STATES TO BLUE STATES.

  • THOSE THREE STATES, GEORGIA,

  • TEXAS, AND ARIZONA.

  • NOW, NONE OF US, THREE, FOUR

  • MONTHS AGO, ACTUALLY THOUGHT

  • THAT THOSE THREE STATES WERE

  • POSSIBILITIES FOR A DEMOCRATIC

  • PICKUP.

  • BUT YOU LOOK AT THE PANDEMIC.

  • YOU LOOK AT THE PROTESTS.

  • YOU LOOK AT THE ECONOMIC

  • PROBLEMS.

  • WE'RE STARTING TO SEE FAULT

  • LINES ALREADY IN 2020 INSTEAD OF

  • 2024, WHEN, YOU KNOW, I'M

  • EXPECTING IN 2024 THAT THOSE

  • STATES ARE GOING TO BE LIKE

  • VIRGINIA AND ARE GOING TO AT

  • LEAST BE PURPLE.

  • AS WE GO INTO A 2024 RACE, JUST

  • BECAUSE OF DEMOGRAPHICS IN

  • TEXAS, DEMOGRAPHICS IN ARIZONA

  • ESPECIALLY.

  • BUT WE'RE HAVING AN ACCELERATION

  • OF THIS POLITICAL PROCESS.

  • YOU'RE NOW SEEING DONALD TRUMP,

  • INSTEAD OF FIGHTING IN

  • WISCONSIN, MICHIGAN,

  • PENNSYLVANIA, AND FLORIDA, AND

  • ASSUMING THAT FLORIDA IS GOING

  • TO BE AN EASIER WIN FOR HIM,

  • WHICH MANY REPUBLICANS EXPECTED,

  • NOW, HE'S LOSING IN THOSE

  • STATES.

  • MOST POLLS SHOW HIM -- THIS FOX

  • NEWS POLL SHOWS HIM LOSING BY

  • NINE IN WISCONSIN.

  • I PERSONALLY THINK THAT'S

  • OUTSIDE -- A LITTLE BIT OUTSIDE

  • OF -- AN OUTLIER.

  • BUT YOU LOOK AT WISCONSIN.

  • YOU LOOK AT MICHIGAN.

  • YOU LOOK AT PENNSYLVANIA.

  • YOU LOOK AT FLORIDA.

  • I THINK MOST PEOPLE RIGHT NOW

  • WOULD PUT ALL OF THOSE STATES

  • LEAN DEMOCRAT, BASED ON THE

  • POLLS.

  • SUDDENLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

  • GEORGIA, WHICH IS BASICALLY A

  • DRAW, ACCORDING TO SOME RECENT

  • POLLS.

  • TEXAS, WHICH WE NOW, I THINK,

  • HAVE HAD THREE POLLS IN THE LAST

  • MONTH THAT SHOWED THAT STATE TO

  • BE THE MARGIN OF ERROR.

  • THEN YOU'VE GOT ARIZONA, SAME

  • THING HAPPENING THERE, WILLIE,

  • WHERE DONALD TRUMP IS NOW DOWN

  • FOUR POINTS IN THIS FOX NEWS

  • POLL.

  • HE IS DOWN IN MOST FLORIDA POLLS

  • THAT YOU SEE.

  • HE IS STARTING TO REALLY BLEED

  • SUPPORT IN THE SOLID SOUTH, IN

  • THE SOLID SUN BELT.

  • THERE'S SO MANY REASONS FOR

  • THIS.

  • WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT OVER

  • THE PAST COUPLE WEEKS.

  • IF YOU'RE THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN,

  • YOU CAN'T TRY TO EXPAND THE MAP.

  • AS I THINK JOHN HEILEMANN SAID A

  • COUPLE WEEKS AGO, THEY WERE

  • PLACING ADS IN IOWA.

  • THEY WERE PLACING ADS IN THE

  • PANHANDLE OF FLORIDA.

  • SO THAT'S WHAT -- AT LEAST AT

  • THE BEGINNING OF JUNE, INSTEAD

  • OF LOOKING TO EXPAND THE MAP,

  • THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO HOLD ON

  • TO GEORGIA, TEXAS, ARIZONA,

  • FLORIDA, STATES THAT SHOULD

  • COMFORTABLY BE IN DONALD TRUMP'S

  • MARGIN

  • MARGIN, COLUMN RIGHT NOW.

  • >> WE'LL REMIND PEOPLE THAT

  • PRESIDENT TRUMP DOESN'T HAVE

  • MUCH OF A MARGIN OF ERROR TO

  • WORK WITH.

  • HE LOST THE POPULAR VOTE IN

  • 2016.

  • WON BY A HANDFUL OF VOTES IN

  • MICHIGAN, HANDFUL OF VOTES IN

  • WISCONSIN.

  • HE HAD NO MARGIN OF ERROR TO

  • WORK WITH THERE IF HE WANTS TO

  • BE RE-ELECTED.

  • NOW, HE'S HAVING TO NOT ONLY WIN

  • THOSE STATES BUT COVER HIS FLANK

  • IN PLACES HE THOUGHT HE COULD

  • CHALK UP, LIKE GEORGIA, TEXAS,

  • AND ARIZONA.

  • MICHAEL STEELE, IF YOU WERE IN

  • YOUR OLD JOB, PUT THAT HAT ON,

  • RUNNING THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL

  • COMMITTEE, WHAT'D WOULD YOU THIN

  • AS YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, AT THE

  • POLLS, FOR NOT JUST PRESIDENT

  • TRUMP BUT INCUMBENT REPUBLICAN

  • SENATORS LIKE McSALLY?

  • >> I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT MY

  • DOWN BALLOT.

  • I WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT

  • GOVERNOR RACES.

  • I'D BE CONCERNED ABOUT STATE

  • LEGISLATIVE RACES.

  • IF YOU HAVE THE KIND OF SURGE

  • FROM THE GRASSROOTS ACROSS THE

  • COUNTRY, PARTICULARLY AMONG

  • INDEPENDENT, CENTER-RIGHT,

  • CENTER-LEFT INDIVIDUALS, THAT

  • NOW BEGINS TO HAVE AN IMPACT ON

  • WHAT YOUR STATE LEGISLATIVE

  • CAMPAIGNS WILL RUN INTO.

  • THAT PARTICULAR BUZZSAW COULD BE

  • VERY DAMAGING.

  • AS ONE OF THE SILENT WEAPONS

  • THAT WE USED IN 2010 WAS

  • FOCUSING ON THOSE STATE

  • LEGISLATIVE RACES.

  • WE WERE LOOKING AT AN ENERGY

  • PUSH FROM THE BOTTOM UP.

  • SORT OF HELP US WIN

  • GOVERNORSHIPS AND THINGS LIKE

  • THAT.

  • YOU NOW HAVE THE PROBLEM WHERE

  • YOU'VE GOT THE TOP OF THE TICKET

  • THAT COULD BE A DRAG ON THOSE

  • RACES THAT ARE ON THE MARGINS.

  • YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU'RE HOLDING

  • THE STATE LEGISLATURE BY THREE

  • SEATS, OR YOU HAVE THE POTENTIAL

  • TO PICK UP THE LEGISLATURE BY

  • SIX SEATS.

  • NOW THE RACES TAKE ON A

  • DIFFERENT COMPLEXION.

  • SO THE PARTY IS GOING TO BE

  • COORDINATING AS CLOSELY AS IT

  • CAN WITH THE CAMPAIGNS AT THE

  • GRASSROOTS LEVEL.

  • GOVERNORS RACES, COUNTY

  • EXECUTIVE RACES, AND THE LIKE,

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